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Offline Cudaragtop

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Re: Goodbye 44 year old Front Suspension
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2014 - 10:23:31 PM »
Installed my Bilstein RCD shocks on all 4 corners and adjusted the torsion bars to set the ride height.
I got the front even at 24-7/8" floor to bottom of fender and the rear are at 25-1/8th" and 25-1/4" Don't know what the ride height is supposed to be... I was just trying to get level.
When I started the right rear was .75" higher than the left rear. Its still an 1/8" higher.
Don't know what to do about that 1/8" difference...
Couldn't test drive yet since it started to rain. But I think it has stopped long enough to go for a quick spin.
Also installed an AEM Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge and sensor.

Putting off the major front end change of swapping the QA1 tubular K-Member until the fall monsoon season.
Well after a short cruise over some crappy road I'm really liking the shocks!  :2thumbs:

Measured the ride height again and the rear didn't change still 25-1/8" and 25-1/4"
but now the fronts are 24-1/4" each??? WTF how did I lose 5/8" on each side???
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Re: Goodbye 44 year old Front Suspension
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2014 - 11:43:09 PM »
The t-bar setting will drop a bit from the 'driveway' setting all the time. It's normal. You adjust, go for a drive, check, and re-adjust.
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Re: Goodbye 44 year old Front Suspension
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2014 - 01:28:56 AM »
The t-bar setting will drop a bit from the 'driveway' setting all the time. It's normal. You adjust, go for a drive, check, and re-adjust.
The stance is good but I hate to give up the ground clearance. I'm only on 25.7" tall tires all the way around.
There is a section of road that curves over an old land fill that they just can't keep flat... bumps and dips one after the other in a row through a curve.
@ 45 MPH the limit or a little faster the car was like a Land Yacht. I used to worry about bottoming out.
But now with the Bilsteins the first time through it was like; "Wow no more boat ride", rock solid contact without all that extra up and down motion.  :2thumbs:
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Re: Goodbye 44 year old Front Suspension
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2014 - 04:59:14 PM »
amazing what a few part will change  :2thumbs:

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Re: Goodbye 44 year old Front Suspension
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2014 - 05:26:45 PM »
Great steps but I found the biggest improvement is reducing the bump steer.  :grinyes:  It is HORRIBLE on these cars like an 1"  :eek4:  Impossible to correct with stock parts though. 
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Re: Goodbye 44 year old Front Suspension
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2014 - 11:08:40 PM »
Great steps but I found the biggest improvement is reducing the bump steer.  :grinyes:  It is HORRIBLE on these cars like an 1"  :eek4:  Impossible to correct with stock parts though.
I would go for changing over to the QA1 K-Member and all the rest of the parts I have assembled and ready to go but I don't want to give up any Sunny weather windshield time.

My PST Tie Rods kits do not have any provision for bump steer adjustment... :(
I'll have to do some research...  :clueless:
Is there a Bump Steer Tie Rod End kit that could be swapped in place of the PST Tie Rod Ends?  Going to run stock UCAs and  Boxed LCAs
with QA1 Adjustable Strut Rods. With the adjustable strut rods should I still run the moog offset bushings in the UCAs?  :dunno:



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Re: Goodbye 44 year old Front Suspension
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2014 - 07:46:49 AM »
I would go for changing over to the QA1 K-Member and all the rest of the parts I have assembled and ready to go but I don't want to give up any Sunny weather windshield time.

My PST Tie Rods kits do not have any provision for bump steer adjustment... :(
I'll have to do some research...  :clueless:
Is there a Bump Steer Tie Rod End kit that could be swapped in place of the PST Tie Rod Ends?  Going to run stock UCAs and  Boxed LCAs
with QA1 Adjustable Strut Rods. With the adjustable strut rods should I still run the moog offset bushings in the UCAs?  :dunno:


I used this....  https://www.howeracing.com/p-7449-howe-quick-bump-tie-rod-ends.aspx



Yes I would still use the offset bushings if your using the stock uppers. You will want all the caster you can get.
More of what I did in here...  http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0
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Re: Goodbye 44 year old Front Suspension
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2014 - 07:36:37 PM »
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If it makes you feel better I'm doing a front end rebuild too.
And I'm older than 52.