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Offline bolo185

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Year and a half later update
« on: January 22, 2015 - 05:53:03 PM »
I'll give the readers digest version but it still might look like an encyclopedia.....

Well, a year and a half ago I posted pics of a recently built blue 70 resto-mod Cuda I purchased from a builder in FL. Beautiful looking car and sounded bad-ass on the youtube video. Did some research on the car and had an inspection done by an independent company because I couldn't go to FL and wouldn't know what to look for even if I did. Unfortunately I couldn't find anyone here on the forum near the shop to take a look at it. Although the inspection turned up some minor things he didn't find anything major so I thought all was good so I bought the car and had it shipped across the U.S. to CA two weeks later in an enclosed, lift-gate non-transfer hauler. Well, I think the shop employees went on a hell of a joyride and maybe swapped parts before it shipped. Drove it 2 blocks home from the delivery point and found the "total restore" car came with leaks from everywhere, the oilpan which was dented, the brake calipers, rear end, radiator and more. Clutch was slipping and hard to get into gear. (inspection photos showed clean bottom with no leaks).  I called the builder and he said he'd stand behind his work and arranged for me to take it to a rod shop near my home.

The shop found 38 issues with the car and didn't want to touch someone elses work. Not sure why they even offered to take a look at it if they didnt want to work on it. Took it to another reputable rod shop and they did a major inspection. The rear end looked like it had a million miles on it inside, worn parts, gobbs of silicone had been put in to try and stop leaks, clutch arm was rubbing and jerryrigged to make work, Tremec TKO tranny was NOT a TKO, it was a stock mustang tranny. The 4-wheel Wilwood disc brakes were NOT Wilwood brakes, cross member had been cut to fit the 440 and transmission and the bracing wasn't sufficient to stop floor separation (some slight separation was noted in the original inspection report but was much worse when I got the car). I had been sent pics of the car stripped down to the frame being painted and wires being fed in the dash for rewiring but the shop found nothing but wire birdnest, shorts and crimped wiring leading to dead ends, wiring crimped together 3-4 places in one lead, a mess.

Without taking up the forum they found the 38 issues the other shop found and much much more, most of it a general visual inspection wouldn't have revealed unless things were disassembled, If a person very knowledgeable about Cudas did the inspection it would have caught some things too. Lessen learned for me, don't worry about costs to have a reputable in-depth inspection done.

The builder hemmed and hawed backpedaling and claiming he wasn't around his shop much during the build and said he fired 3 of his workers over the shoddy work (ya, right). I told him the car was misrepresented and a lot of the issues were internal and wouldnt have been noticed on the visual inspection but would have been noticed during the build. After months of going back and forth the builder stopped talking to me and referred me to his lawyer. I threatened to sue and expose his clients misrepresentations and what I considered fraud and we settled on an amount that was reimbursed to me. It wasnt as much as I wanted but saved me trips to FL to go to court.

To make a very long story shorter, with the car torn apart I did the following main improvements:

Magnum Force IFS kit (paint matched to car)
Coil over suspension
Rack and pinion steering
4-wheel Wilwood disc brakes
Completely rewired dash with master plug
New Ford 9" rear end
New beefed up Tremec 5-speed tranny
New Bell Housing
Hydraulic clutch conversion
New radiator and fans
New high capacity low profile oil pan
And a lot more (not to drag this posting on and on).

Basically the whole car was rebuilt underneath. Now it's done right and what it should have been when I got it. Only difference is Mucho $$$$$ later. I quickly learned if you improve A you have to modify B, then C wont fit right unless you change D, and while your in there might as well modify E and F but you might have to tweek G, H and I which affects........you get the picture and most everyone here can probably attest to.... 

I'll post pics soon and hopefully within weeks be driving my dream Cuda that I bought 1-1/2 years ago but only drove 2 blocks before going in the shop..... :jumping:

The excitement I felt when I first got my Cuda quickly faded away when all the issues were found and I've been bummed the past 1-1/2 years seeing my empty garage stall. But the wait is almost over and I'm starting to get excited again. Hopefully this time I'll be smiling for more than two blocks.

I'll be like a newbie again here on the forum asking questions....
Speaking of questions, Whats a good anti theft device to keep it from driving away without me in it such as an ignition kill, fuel pump disabler, etc?




                   
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Offline dutch

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Re: Year and a half later update
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2015 - 07:09:09 PM »
wow....  :faint:


so, now that you mention....   





































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Re: Year and a half later update
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2015 - 07:23:48 PM »
 :faint:  There are just no words for that.  At least none that they would let me put up here.   :stirpot:

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Re: Year and a half later update
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2015 - 08:23:00 PM »
I'm in the business of restoring cars and I'm currently building a "resto-mod" too.....So I'm only going to say this once ...for the millionth time.... :blah:

You should never by a "done" car. If you want to know every inch of the car from top to bottom, then build it yourself or have an expert do it for you and keep you informed.
You will spend more, but how do you put a price on knowing what you have.  :2cents:
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Re: Year and a half later update
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2015 - 10:24:40 PM »
I'm in the business of restoring cars and I'm currently building a "resto-mod" too.....So I'm only going to say this once ...for the millionth time.... :blah:

You should never by a "done" car. If you want to know every inch of the car from top to bottom, then build it yourself or have an expert do it for you and keep you informed.
You will spend more, but how do you put a price on knowing what you have.  :2cents:

 :iagree:  It's the only way to really know the car.

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Re: Year and a half later update
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2015 - 02:54:15 PM »
I'm in the business of restoring cars and I'm currently building a "resto-mod" too.....So I'm only going to say this once ...for the millionth time.... :blah:

You should never by a "done" car. If you want to know every inch of the car from top to bottom, then build it yourself or have an expert do it for you and keep you informed.
You will spend more, but how do you put a price on knowing what you have.  :2cents:

I agree, it's my own fault. I looked for 2 years before getting serious for a Cuda in 2013. Found a beautiful black restored 340 6 pack car but turned out it had been re-vinned (thanks to some watchers here on the forum) and the Highway Patrol was investigating it. I kept looking and found this one.

I cant build one, didn't know of anyone local that could, and thought I did enough homework to buy a nice finished car. I did a lot of research, had over 600 emails, text messages and phone calls exchanged with the builder, and asked a million questions. It is a beautiful car but was definitely misrepresented. I do believe parts were swapped in the two weeks it sat in his shop before shipping and that the employees did some harsh joyriding before it want on the trailer, based on follow up conversations with the inspector on his findings and photos he took. I thought it was a decent inspection with paint thickness measurements, body gap measurements, everything tested, tons of photos when the car was on a lift, and a mechanical  / road test inspection. Now in hindsight I would have had a person familiar with building Cudas do the inspection, even if I had to fly a person there when spending that kind of money on a car.  Another error on my part was not giving the inspector specific instructions to make sure specific parts were on the car. I think I was too excited to get my dream car and although I thought I did my due diligence, it wasn't enough. It's amazing the shortcuts this "builder" in FL took, if I posted all the issues and shortcuts found as the car was disassembled by the current shop it would be a long list.

But whats done is done. The shop it's in now is great, they do everything from simple maintenance and mods to complete builds including SEMA cars. They had a 70 Cuda in the shop when I took mine there and I felt comfortable with them. Rather than just trying to have them fix what was half-assed,  I spent a lot of money with mods like the IFS kit and coil overs which solved several other issues I would have had to address. The car is truly bad ass now. Basically the whole underside of the car has now been rebuilt. On the plus side the shop owner says the paint, gaps and bodywork on the car is flawless and would have been expensive if he had done it.   

So lesson learned, and an expensive one at that. But in the end I now know whats in and under my car because I went to the shop and took pics of the whole process. Also in regular contact with the shop owner requesting updates and progress. Now if I ever buy another car or have one built I'll know what to do and what to look for.
And yes, this thread is useless without pics but I will add them soon....

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Re: Year and a half later update
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015 - 03:34:07 PM »
Don't feel too bad.  Others have learned that lesson the same way you did.  The goal is just to make different ones in the future.   :bigsmile:

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Re: Year and a half later update
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015 - 09:38:49 PM »
What builder did you purchase the cuda from?