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Offline 76orangewagon

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What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« on: December 11, 2016 - 11:07:52 AM »
I just had Rod @ SMS Restoration restore my Emergency Brake Pedal assembly, which turned out awesome BTW, But when I went to remove the bolt on the front mounting hole (marked with red Arrow) I noticed it wasn't attached to anything, once the E brake assembly was out of the way I noticed that there was a empty rectangular hole in the sheet metal but no attaching nut for the bolt. Before I put it back together can some one help me with telling me what type of fastener goes in the hole? Thank you in advance for any and all help.




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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2016 - 11:27:00 AM »
That square hole should have a weld nut attached to it...
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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2016 - 11:29:13 AM »


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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2016 - 11:29:36 AM »
Yup :drunk:
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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2016 - 11:49:54 AM »
Thank you... I going to assume this style since I don't see any spot weld marks.


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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2016 - 12:07:47 PM »
That may work but it's not what was there. Wild 1 posted a picture of what would have been there.

I'm more curious about the red spring that SMS used  :clueless: I've never seen them coloured before :dunno: The firewall gaskets should also be white not black :2cents:
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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2016 - 12:21:27 PM »
That may work but it's not what was there. Wild 1 posted a picture of what would have been there.

I'm more curious about the red spring that SMS used  :clueless: I've never seen them coloured before :dunno: The firewall gaskets should also be white not black :2cents:

Here is a picture of the assembly before I sent it out, Looks like the spring was Black.
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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2016 - 12:43:40 PM »
Here is a picture of the assembly before I sent it out, Looks like the spring was Black.

I don't see the pictures, but I agree they should be black or natural....I've never seen red ones..... :dunno:
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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2016 - 12:44:38 PM »
Thank you... I going to assume this style since I don't see any spot weld marks.

Like Alan said, the one I posted above is the correct part, but if you can get the caged nut mounted from the back side it should work fine....  I'd probably use a long bolt as a handle so you can do most of the work from the front side....   
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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2016 - 12:49:44 PM »
I would hold a regular nut in the hole and weld it in solid, then run a tap through the threads and voila  you're done !
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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2016 - 03:18:21 PM »
I would hold a regular nut in the hole and weld it in solid, then run a tap through the threads and voila  you're done !

Yeah but the nut has to be on the back side but access to weld the back side is virtually non-existent & welding on the front side your likely to tack into the threads.... Granted you mention running a tap but sometimes welding slag is so hard it breaks a tap....   That caged nut is an easy fix...
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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2016 - 03:29:05 PM »
I ran into this issue.

Took a bolt, ran it thru the nut cage.

Opened up the hole a hair so weld had something to grab onto.

Used a weld magnet to position where I wanted it.

Sprayed the bolt with anti splatter slag.

One light tack each side.

Then tacked opposites.

Done!
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Re: What type of fastener is missing on my 71 Cuda ?
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2016 - 05:30:03 PM »
More than one way to skin a cat I guess :drunk:
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