smoke...does a body good

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Offline DodgeFreak

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Re:smoke...does a body good
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2003 - 01:34:43 AM »
Hey, i am assuming your calling peg-leggers what iam calling dog leg.....if so.......no it doesn't matter. it spins what ever tire has least resistance. if you go out and put solvent down on the drivers side then the drivers side should spin..i am not positive though
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Re:smoke...does a body good
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2003 - 10:56:12 AM »
If you have a sure grip , both tires "should' spin  however 30 year old cone style sure grips tend to wear out allowing the cone to bottom out allowing the diff to lock sometimes & not others , if you jack up the diff & spin 1 tire , in neutral, & the other tire rotates the same direction   you have a sure grip  ;)  

I've been through this discussion before as well. I also have this problem except it isn't quite as bad. The cones have worn out and I get a barely thicker patch of black on the driver side tire. Other stipulations to remember are that you can break both tires loose with an open differential, was proved once again by AlexinOklahoma from the charger board while we were a the car show in Ardmore he did it with his brand new rather mild engine, its all about the torque and how you break the tires loose.

Also for a sure grip/possi/limited slip rear differential you will need to add the gear oil additive when you change or add oil to the diffy, If you do not it will ruin the rear end and convert it to an open differential, this happened to my friend in a '96 mustang who lost his limited slip that way.

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Re:smoke...does a body good
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2003 - 04:21:16 PM »
What additive is recommended? Will the additive harm a non-suregrip? What weight gear oil?
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Re:smoke...does a body good
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2003 - 10:07:10 PM »

The standard weight for rear differentials is 80W-90... thanks to Jiffy Lube for teaching me this...  ::) ;D

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Re:smoke...does a body good
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2003 - 06:48:19 AM »
Let me try a little down under explanation

Single spinner diffs transfer drive from one wheel to another depending on weight etc so as you turn corners the inside side of the diff slips, drive transfers to the outside axle allowing it to catch up . When smoking the bags generally one side will slip & only one wheel will spin, hence the term single spinner.

Limited slip diffs, as the name implys limit the amount of slip to the axles to improve traction & drive out of corners, it's also handy for commercial vehicles. When  frying the hides both tyres will generally turn at pretty much the same rate, giving more smoke & 2 black strips
If you jack the car under the diff & get a mate to firmly grab one tyre, you then try & turn the other, if you are fighting each other you've got an LSD. If your wheel turns & matey's is stationery you've got a single spinner.

Just to finish a locked diff does not allow for any slip between the axles which is why you see the tyres slipping and fighting each other when any vehicle with a locked diff is at low speed & changing direction. Great for drag racing 'cause traction is evenly applied to both wheels, not much good for a regularly driven street car unless you don't mind doing regular diff rebuilds.

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Re:smoke...does a body good
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2003 - 10:34:37 PM »
Hey, I never heard of a Dog leg either.  We just call an open diff a Single leg, because only one wheel usually spins.  About the spider gears, most all street use diffs have spiders, including no spins or limited slip.  Some have slanted holes in the rear gear carrier that allow the whole internal assembly to move to one side when pressure (traction) is not equal on both wheels, thereby putting pressure on the lock-up clutches.   Others have clutches built into the assembly with preload springs on the clutches to be sure some power is sent to both wheels, even when traction is not equal.  I recently put a new Dana Trac-Loc posi in my 65 Cuda w/ 3.21 8.25 rear.  It allows the spider gears to work fairly normally when traction is good, but locks up tight when it is not.  Sure does make 2 nice black marks when you want to spin though.  
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