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Offline Pentastar Pete

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318 to 440
« on: March 31, 2006 - 06:24:54 PM »
I have a 74 Challenger 318.
I have a 440 complete. Besides the transmission, is there anything else I need to replace to make this work????
or is there any front end parts that would need to be replaced????
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Offline Stacked440

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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2006 - 07:46:29 PM »
It would have a small block K frame in it, and the torsion bars are larger on big block cars i beleive.  other than that i dont think so.
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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006 - 08:25:04 PM »
You need motor mounts.

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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2006 - 10:56:08 PM »
The trans will work, just need a different bell housing.    :cheers:

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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2006 - 01:40:43 AM »
just to clarify the K frame is the same , you will need big block mounts , a bigger rad , & .96 torsion bars would be a good idea , the auto trannys need to have the big block 727 case to work , the 4 spd just need a big block belhousing , the flywheel & clutch & trans can be used , if the 440 is a cast crank the flywheel would need to be balanced & you will have to drill a hole into the rear of the crank to clear the 4 spd input shaft & use the Dakota pilot bearing 

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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2006 - 12:15:17 PM »
This is step by step help. Just what I needed.
Thanks Chryco.
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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2006 - 12:50:55 PM »
He wouldnt need a new drive shaft and/or diff  I have a 73 challenger that Im thinking about bumping to a big block, and Ive been wondering wether the original drive shaft and the 8.75 diff could handle it....
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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2006 - 11:05:51 PM »
You might want to get the bigger 3/8 fuel line and sending unit, 5/16 should be what you have for the 318.  The only other thing I can think is they recommend different leaf springs, assuming yours are stock, and I'm sure stiffer shocks.

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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2006 - 08:18:44 AM »
He wouldnt need a new drive shaft and/or diff  I have a 73 challenger that Im thinking about bumping to a big block, and Ive been wondering wether the original drive shaft and the 8.75 diff could handle it....


You probably will need to modify your driveshaft length.  I did the same swap, except with a 340/AT car and the 727 for an RB that I used had a longer overall length. You'll need to get an 8-3/4 or Dana 60 rear under it if you want it to survive. Mine rides well with the stock .90 T-bars, but I plan on going to the .96" as Chryco Psycho suggests.

Also swap out the fuel sending unit to the 3/8" and run larger fuel lines.  With 5/16" fuel starvation is a definite problem at WOT.  You'll start running out about 2-3 seconds into 2nd gear. Right about the time speed starts to get interesting. :naughty: 
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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2006 - 09:01:08 AM »
While your at it don't forget to modify the brakes... 4 wheel drums is a PITA for stopping power even in a 3teen car.  Of course disregard if you have discs. 

As sugested you will also need a beefier rear end.  Prefer the 8 3/4 for versatility.
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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2006 - 08:01:20 PM »
I'm basicall asking the same question 318 to 383bb, for me it looks like I need a new radiator and figure out how/where to hang the power steering pump.

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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2006 - 02:34:08 PM »
I never  had to change my drive shaft on my swap, 318 to 440, rear was fine to...8.75, but i did change the rad to an aluminum, and fatter tires and.... :drool:
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Re: 318 to 440
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2006 - 03:02:01 PM »
I never  had to change my drive shaft on my swap, 318 to 440, rear was fine to...8.75, but i did change the rad to an aluminum, and fatter tires and.... :drool:

Apparently 727 trannys had two tail lengths.  The one I took off a '70 GTX was longer than the original 727 that was in my '73 340 car, so I had to shorten the driveshaft.  It's easy enough to determine.  The answer is just a tape measure away.
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