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Offline JimCuda

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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2006 - 08:10:00 PM »
The passenger side doesn't have much ground clearance either.

This is one of my concerns. I had a 71 cuda and a set of unknown headers on there. They were pits and dents on the bottom of the headers and I was always running up on something like a speed bump. Can't imagine they would have gained any hp (compared to stock manifolds) when you bang them up like that.
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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2006 - 11:38:21 PM »
you would be surprised , even dented they can scavenage better then the manifolds will

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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2006 - 05:34:44 AM »
'71 318 Barracuda - manifolds, my first car, did everythign I could to kill it and squash horsepower during my steep learning curve.
'71 340 Cuda conv.- manifolds, basic full resto anyway, wanted to keep stock look.
'74 318/340 Barracuda - headers, 15/8 cheapie hedmans. No dimpling, but flattened tubes repeatedly on several sets while owning/driving.
'70 383/440 Baracuda - removed manifolds, still runs Casler 1 7/8 primary, 3" collectore. Prices are less, no dimpling, trans can be removed without touching headers, now 10 years old, no rust holes, no coating.
'70 383 RT - headers, 1 3/4 Hedmans, no dinging needed to fit, clears bell housing. SO good at 5 yras old they got coated. Now 8 years old.
'71 440 Cuda - headers, same Caslers as mine, bought 3 years later. Driven daily in summers, 8 years old, no coating.
'71 440 Cuda - headers, Hooker Competitions, 1 7/8 primary, coated, no dinging required, 4sp, P/S
'73 wedge Barracuda - headers, TTi, 2" primary, cannot remove transmission without removing one header, hangs lower than my Caslers, coated, cost 3 times Caslers.
I also have run headers and  manifolds on my A bodies, manifolds on my C bodies, and headers on my trucks.

Conclusions found over the years: Manifolds run cooler, are quieter, fit much easier, make maintenance much easier, make custom exh more expensive, can be initially expensive if you have to buy the right ones, do sacrifice low end trq, and upper rpm power. They can make power, but every engine, bar none, with any cam or head design, will make more power with a properly sized header as opposed to any available factory manifold.
Headers are like almost anything else. In TTi's case, unless the cylinder head type and chassis force me to, I'll look elsewhere. They are too expensive for what you can get if you shop around. Headers fitting is a relative tive. You wont know until you try. I have one set that fit really terrible, a couple sets that fit with nothing else needed. The rest may have needed a tweak here or there. Nothing huge. The thinner flanges will be used up much faster than a quality set with 1/4" or 5/16" thick flanges. I've never had an uncoated set rust thru, unless it was a plow truck that sits all summer, and most of the winter. I generally buy plain painted ones for that reason. A "show" car should have coated ones, to impress everyone. With proper looming, boot choice, and care, wires and boots will last for years with them. I rotate wires off my Cuda, onto my weekend dump-run swap-meet truck. Leaks occur from crud on the flanges of the heads, too much engine movement, and impacts with objects. Sometimes the coating process leaves "hangers" too. Flanges can be bent from over tightening. You're better starting lightly torqued, and going back over them a few times then socking them down. Proper exhaust hanger use can make headers seal forever. Most palces I know consider the header flange and engien an exh hanger. If only one other is used, you're asking for failure. Also, if the car is strong, a tight exh will act like a torque strap, and that too will spit out gaskets. If you make serious power, tie the engine down better.

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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2006 - 09:34:28 AM »
'72 Challenger 340, stock manifolds.

Why-
headers would be nice but....

-they're on the car already
-engine is still all stock from the factory
-possible exhaust manifold stud breaking/nut stripping scares me
-heard about headaches with headers.  Already have enough headaches as is.
-too lazy to change them
-too poor to change them
-if it ain't broke, I leave it alone
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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2006 - 10:11:26 PM »
70 Cuda - 340 4-speed running stock manifolds with Accurate LTD reproduction exhaust system complete with mufflers, resonators, and exhaust tips. Fits great and sounds good with no leaks. Car is restored back stock except for a bigger cam and the system works great.

71 Challenger RT - 340 automatic running stock manifolds with surpreme brand mufflers and resonators. Custom bend exhaust pipes with exhaust tips. Would like to update to Accurate exhaust pipes as they fits better on my Cuda than my Challenger with bends being very smooth and round not flattened out. I show the car and wanted to have the original look on the car as the Challenger is stock except for a bigger cam.


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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2006 - 11:14:57 PM »
71 Challenger, 360, cheap hedman hedders w/ exhaust paint, 2.25 duals, flowmasters

Why... was looking for a small block torque motor 10:1 comp, Edelbrock heads, xe268 cam, etc.  Running 3.23 rear with 28 inch tire.

Headers flow better that stock maniflods so that is what I wanted.  Only problem is that they do not give much ground clearance with the Hedman type.
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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2006 - 06:14:30 AM »
70 Chally vert
478 ci. hemi
TTI headers and 3in. exhaust with x-pipe

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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2006 - 09:24:43 AM »
TTI small block headers and TTI 2.5"  x-exhaust system w/dynomax mufflers.  sounds great.
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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2006 - 08:22:47 AM »
74 Cuda with 340. Hedman Hedders with 2 1/2 pipes. Have flowmaster mufflers. Sounds awesome.
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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2006 - 06:14:42 PM »
74 Cuda with 340. Hedman Hedders with 2 1/2 pipes. Have flowmaster mufflers. Sounds awesome.

Did you have to remove any suspension to get the headman headers in?

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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2006 - 12:01:31 AM »
Did you have to remove any suspension to get the headman headers in?


Not the suspension, but you do have to remove part of the steering linkage to get them in.  The linkage goes through the headers on the driver's side.  You may also have to slightly lift the engine to get them in.  They are a tight fit.  Not the best design, but they do fit.  I put mine in the engine bay before I dropped my 360 in.
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Re: What type of Exhaust are you running?
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2006 - 12:28:15 PM »
528 CI Hemi

TTi---2-1/4" headers into TTi 3" exhaust through Flowmaster 50 series mufflers.  Also running the TTi tips...
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