Time for an oil change

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Offline Super Blue 72

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Re: Time for an oil change
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2006 - 03:53:30 PM »
Great info Zerf...........    :2thumbs:


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 :iagree:  Very good info, felt like I was back in school again, except this time I was even more confused!   :bricks1:
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Re: Time for an oil change
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2006 - 06:25:48 PM »
Great info zerfetzen. I Change oil in my cars once a year, no matter if it gone 2 miles or 20000 i change it anyway :cooldancing:
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Re: Time for an oil change
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2006 - 05:13:27 PM »
here 's my 2 cents... cuda gets changed every 1000 cause i only drive on weekends and i ve always got my foot in it.. caddy's a highway cruiser so it gets it every 2500.  grand cherokee gets it every 60 hours reguardless of mileage
wife's gets it every 3 months cause she only make short but frequent trips..and here's a quotable i read many years ago......taxis change it every week.....and they are in business to make money!!!!!
ps back in the day  i ran straight 30 in the 440.
 

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Re: Time for an oil change
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2006 - 09:35:29 AM »
I just found the answer to my original question.  Car Craft magazine (I went there to re-subscribe) has an article in their tech articles called "Slick Talk - Oil Tech" (most recent tech articles).

Here's a quick copy/paste of a caption:

"Just because you may never put 3,000 miles on your garage queen engine doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t change the oil. Water can combine with sulfur and fuel contaminants to create acids that can eat bearings. The pits in these bearings were created by acids."

They recommend changing the oil more frequently than even the 3,000 mile common rule of thumb, even for garage queens.

I know there's been some debate before about mineral vs. synthetic, and this and other recent articles strongly suggest synthetic.  I haven't read that you shouldn't switch to synthetic until after a few hundred miles are put on your motor, but I'm sure it's a good idea...but wonder why.  Cheers.

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Re: Time for an oil change
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2006 - 10:22:39 AM »
One more...here's something from Hot Rod:

Motor oil gets a certain amount of contaminants in it as a vehicle is driven. The contaminants include moisture (water), dirt, wear metals (such as iron and aluminum), and unburned gasoline. Additives in high-quality oil are designed to hold contaminants in suspension, counteract acidic reactions, and provide a good support product to lubricate and cool vital engine components. But these additives can only do so much before they wear out or are used up. Obviously you should change oil before this happens, but how do you know when this point has been reached? Here are a few tips, courtesy of 76 Performance Products, the racing gas (and oil) guys:

* Short-trip driving is indeed severe service and requires frequent oil changes because the oil does not get hot enough to evaporate the water or gasoline contamination that gets in it. (Note that gasoline contamination is generally more severe on a carbureted car than it is on a fuel-injected vehicle.) Vehicles subjected to short trip driving (three miles or less) should also get an occasional 15-20 mile trip to drive off the contaminants.

* Special-interest (seasonal) vehicles like street rods and musclecars based in the northern states are usually stored during undesirable weather periods for three to six months. You should change the oil and filter before putting the car "away" for the Winter. This gets all the moisture, dirt, and unburned gas out of the crankcase.

* Starting the engine of a vehicle in storage every week or two sounds like a good idea, but is actually very hard on the oil because the oil rarely gets hot enough to drive off the new batch of contaminants. They continue to build up and at the end of the storage period, the oil may be in fairly poor condition. Consider removing the spark plugs, squirting oil in the cylinders, and periodically rotating the engine by hand so the valvesprings don't take a set (stop rotating the engine at a different point than where you started so the valves that were open are now closed and vice-versa). Spinning the engine over with the starter is acceptable only if there is assurance that raw fuel is not getting into the engine.

* For the people living in mild climate areas that drive their cars occasionally throughout the year, accumulate no more than 2,000-3,000 miles during that period, and typically drive at least 15-20 miles each trip, changing the oil and filter once each year should be adequate.

* Synthetic oils get dirty and contaminated just like conventional mineral-based oils, so synthetics must be changed at regular intervals, too. The primary performance (as well as any longevity) benefits of synthetic oils is their better low-temperature flow characteristics and greater stability and resistance to break-down at high temperatures. Synthetics must be changed as often as mineral oil when subject to the same contamination conditions.

* When changing oil, always have the engine thoroughly warmed up so the oil drains easily out of the engine when the drain plug is removed. This allows removing the greatest amount of oil from the engine in the least amount of time.

To reiterate, occasional startups are worse on the oil than leaving the engine unfired in storage. The best solution is to change the oil before putting the car into storage, then rotate the engine occasionally by hand. Assuming the storage period is limited to six months or less, the oil should still be OK at the end of the storage period and there's no need to change it. For really long-tem storage fresh oil should be adequate for several years providing the engine isn't started, but is stored over six months it's a good idea to change the oil before returning the vehicle to service. If the engine is started while in storage, fresh oil is definitely required at the end of the storage period, if not before the end of storage.

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Re: Time for an oil change
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2006 - 11:52:40 AM »
Thanks for the info!  :wave:
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

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Re: Time for an oil change
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2006 - 05:38:02 AM »
 :iagree:

Great info.

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Re: Time for an oil change
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2006 - 12:20:40 PM »
I change the oil with 10W30 Royal Purple at the beginning of the spring and it stays in until the following spring.

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Re: Time for an oil change
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2006 - 10:12:09 AM »
Zerf, thanks to you I lost 15minutes of my life that I'll never get back! BTW, unless I race it, I change the oil every 4k