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oil for break-in? and length of break-in?
« on: January 11, 2007 - 02:26:25 AM »
I know that this is has been a topic in the past and after I did a little searching, I saw that Shell Rotella T and GM Engine Oil Supplement were the main suggestions.

My father will be breaking in his Voodoo cam soon (in his 360) and I was wondering if these are still the suggested products to use.  If so, we may use the Rotella, but what Viscosity should we get?

I also understand about the 20 minute break in period, but the Voodoo cam calls for an odd combinations of steps to break in the cam.  Something like "rev the engine at 2000rpm for 20 min., then increase to 2500 for "?" min, then at 3000 rpm for "?" min, then 2500rpm for "?" min, then 2000rpm for "?" min, then 1500rpm for "?" min."

Is this for real?  Is it necessary for the cam break-in?

Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.
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Re: oil for break-in? and length of break-in?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2007 - 09:58:39 AM »
Flat tappet cams are only oiled by splash. The pressurized oil is for the hydraulic lifters, so a little dribbles around them, but not much. What comes off the heads runs down the valley and doesnt hit the lobes. So that leaves the crank windage. The reason they say "keep it at X rpm" is to make sure there's enough oil flying around to keep the lobes well oiled while they wear in. Idle time is not good. Any rpm about about 1800 will fling a bunch of oil up on them. I like to start it, rev it to abour 2000 using the idle speed screw, let it run a few minutes, then bring it up to around 3-3500, then slowly back down to 2000. Do that a few times, and I keep the running time to about 10 minutes. I do that, check for leaks, loose clampos, etc, the fire it back up again for another round of about 10-15 minutes. Then while it's hot, I drop the oil and filter, replace with fresh stuff, and let it cool. Try not to let it idle much for the first few times you run it. After it's cooled, I swap in the innner springs (if needed), check head fastener torque, I warm it up again, reset the vlave lash (if needed) and she's ready to run. I currently use Car Quest 15-40 fleet oil with Comp's additive. I'll probably stay with those.

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Re: oil for break-in? and length of break-in?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2007 - 10:28:35 AM »
Just curious:  do the manufacturers have any special break-in proccess for new engines with new cams?   They build hundreds of thousands of engines every year, wonder what they do to keep cam wear down during break-in...   :dunno:   :clueless:   
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Re: oil for break-in? and length of break-in?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2007 - 10:35:13 AM »
you need to run the engine for 20-30 mins , keep the RPM steady at 2000 rpm , add either Comp Camps break in lube or GM EOS to what ever oil you use to replace the additives in the oil that are needed for the cam to survive , do not use synthetic oil for 4000 miles , if you do the rings will never seat properly 

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Re: oil for break-in? and length of break-in?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2007 - 10:35:42 AM »
MOst new engines are using roller hyd cams so thee is no break in

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Re: oil for break-in? and length of break-in?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2007 - 01:22:39 PM »
you need to run the engine for 20-30 mins , keep the RPM steady at 2000 rpm , add either Comp Camps break in lube or GM EOS to what ever oil you use to replace the additives in the oil that are needed for the cam to survive , do not use synthetic oil for 4000 miles , if you do the rings will never seat properly 

So we can run just some regular 10w-30 with the Comp Cam lube?  Is it the #159 product code?

What is the code # of the GM stuff?
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Re: oil for break-in? and length of break-in?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2007 - 07:40:27 PM »
What is the code # of the GM stuff?

Just go to the GM parts counter and ask for a can of EOS, AKA Engine Oil Supplement.
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Re: oil for break-in? and length of break-in?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007 - 09:20:15 PM »
I run the best oil I can find , usually Castrol , or shell Rotella with the additive, I generally run a diesel grade oil in 15-40w 

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Re: oil for break-in? and length of break-in?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2007 - 11:03:34 PM »
Thanks for the help everyone.   :2thumbs:
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