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    Offline Tropicalcats

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    383 Pie Pan
    « on: April 16, 2008 - 10:18:24 PM »
    Can I assume that the original pie pan on the 70s were made of tin like the one I have and not some decal like I see on e-bay?
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    Offline FJ5_440

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008 - 10:25:01 PM »
    Yes, they were tin inserts.  You can get them through Mopar Performance or through Summit.
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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #2 on: April 21, 2008 - 09:14:24 AM »
    I noticed Year One has them also for $59.

    383 Pie Pan Clarifications and Questions:

    Clarifications:
    Dodge = Magnum
    Plymouth = Commando

    I have seen:
    “383 Four Barrel” (Dodge and Plymouth - Red)
    “383 Magnum” (Dodge - Orange)
    “383 Magnum” (Dodge - Red)
    “383 Road Runner Engine (Plymouth - Orange)
    “383 Road Runner Engine (Plymouth - Red)
    “383 Commando” (Plymouth - Red)
    “383 Super Commando” (Plymouth - Orange)
    “383 Super Commando” (Plymouth - Red)

    Questions:
    I have a 71 Cuda with the 383 “HP” motor (factory Holley), when decoded, it is call it the Road Runner engine.

    What is the correct Pie Pan?
     ???
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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #3 on: April 21, 2008 - 11:18:22 AM »
    what is the difference between the commando and the super commando?
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    Offline R71CUDA

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #4 on: April 21, 2008 - 11:21:18 AM »
    Good question.  I forgot to put that in there.  The only thing I can think of is if it was installed in a Police car.
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    Offline Tropicalcats

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #5 on: April 21, 2008 - 05:34:49 PM »
    What I know

    The Pie tins in 70 were orange
     340 read ''340 Four Barrel'
    383 330hp read ''383 Four Barrel''
    The R/T with the 383 or 440 Dodge read ''383 Magnum'' and ''4440 Magnum''
    Plymouth wITH the 383 read ''383 Super Command''
    440 read ''440 Super Commando''

    Challenger used the ''383 Magnum'' in 71 and the Barracuda used ''383 Super Commando''

     In 72 the pie tins were replaced with decals
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    Offline wally426ci

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #6 on: April 21, 2008 - 05:36:33 PM »
    $59!!  :faint: i paid $30 from Herbs @ Englishtown last year.......
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    Offline Bullitt-

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #7 on: April 21, 2008 - 08:19:53 PM »
    Quote from: wally426ci on April 21, 2008 - 05:36:33 PM
    $59!!  :faint: i paid $30 from Herbs @ Englishtown last year.......

    Herbs on-line price is $39.00 today & I'm sure his S&H will be lower than Y1 anyway
    http://www.herbsparts.com/products.asp?cat=20
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    Re: 383 Pie Pan questions
    « Reply #8 on: April 22, 2008 - 09:42:04 AM »
     :dunno:
    So why is there such a big difference in cost between the two?  Is the plated different, thinner material, hence being cheaper?  Or are we unknowing being taken to the bank?

     :clueless:
    And what is the answer to the difference between the 383 - "four barrel, commando, and Super Commando?

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #9 on: April 22, 2008 - 09:50:24 AM »
    Quote from: R71CUDA on April 22, 2008 - 09:42:04 AM
    :dunno:
    So why is there such a big difference in cost between the two?  Is the plated different, thinner material, hence being cheaper?  Or are we unknowing being taken to the bank?

     :clueless:
    And what is the answer to the difference between the 383 - "four barrel, commando, and Super Commando?


    Same product......Y1 will rip you a new one every chance they get  :2cents:
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    Offline Tropicalcats

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #10 on: April 22, 2008 - 10:29:53 AM »

    And what is the answer to the difference between the 383 - "four barrel, commando, and Super Commando?



    I believe the difference is a 2 barrel or 4 barrel
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    Offline DoNotChallengeHer

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #11 on: April 22, 2008 - 11:37:19 AM »
    The 383 (6.3 L) short-stroke B engine used a 4.25 in (108 mm) bore and was introduced in 1959 for the 1960 model year. Over 3,000,000 B 383 engines were produced between 1959 and 1971. Dodge's version (the D500) had a cross-ram induction manifold and dual 4-barrel carburetor as options. In some Dodge applications, this engine was labelled as the Magnum, while the Plymouth's version was called the Golden Commando. The "Golden Commando" came with a special dual-point distributor for a hotter spark, a drag-racing derivation. Note that there was also an RB 383 (the Golden Lion), though it is quite rare.

    The B 383 was found on the following vehicles:

    1962-1965 Chrysler 300 base models
    Chrysler Newport
    Chrysler New Yorker
    Chrysler Town and Country
    Chrysler 300
    Plymouth Sport Fury
    1966 Chrysler R/T police special in Canada
    Dodge Magnum
    Dodge Monaco
    Dodge Coronet
    Dodge Charger
    Dodge Challenger
    Dodge Dart
    Dodge Polara
    1968-1971 Dodge Super Bee
    Plymouth Barracuda
    Plymouth Belvedere
    Plymouth Fury
    Plymouth Road Runner
    Plymouth Satellite
    Plymouth GTX
    Bristol 411
    Jensen Interceptor MKI & II

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #12 on: April 22, 2008 - 11:39:32 AM »
    Until 1971, the high output 440 was marketed as the Magnum in Dodges, the Super Commando in Plymouths, and briefly as the TNT in Chryslers. It looks like the 383's were Commandos and the 440 Super Commandos.
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    Offline DAYLEY/CHALLENGER

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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #13 on: April 22, 2008 - 02:41:21 PM »
    Mopar performance is only $40 plus tax.  delivered to your local Dodge,Chrysler dealer.  No shipping........
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    Re: 383 Pie Pan
    « Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008 - 09:06:11 AM »
    Plymouth
    383 - 2bl - Commando
    383 - 4bl - Super Commando 
    440 - 4bl - Super Commando 

    Dodge --  Magnums

    The Golden Commando was for late 50's, early 60's "B" engines...  I think that the Dodge engine at that time was called Ramcharger.........
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