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aftermarket rear suspension and traction
« on: August 10, 2008 - 08:20:08 PM »
i'm toying with the idea of a air bar or similiar rear suspension setup. i assume these setups will ride and corner better but what about hooking up out of the hole? i do a fair bit of brackets so i need traction.




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Re: aftermarket rear suspension and traction
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2008 - 08:59:52 PM »
What is the percentage of street to strip? What is the budget? How much WOW! do you want? How are your fabricating skills?

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Re: aftermarket rear suspension and traction
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2008 - 09:18:05 PM »
i gonna say about 50/50 street use. i was looking into the ride tech air bar for a couple of grand and was hopeing to get away with just that, if i had to spend much more i think i will install a set of caltracs and call it good. as far as fab skills, i'm no screaming hell but the guy who is helping me is top noch.

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Re: aftermarket rear suspension and traction
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2008 - 07:21:01 AM »
Most, but not all, aftermarket suspension systems are are going to have some adjustability built into them and require some sort of welding, grinding or cutting for an install. If they have adjustability then you can typically change how hard or soft the initial hit to the tires is going to be, which is great if your running a high powered engine in a variety of track conditions in a class where a dial in is not important.

While some people swear by Cal-Trac set ups, I don't see them as a huge benefit to mopars. Remember that they were originally designed to convert other makes of leaf spring cars into the similar short front segment, long rear segment that mopars already have. But, they do have a couple more adjustments than a set of stock style mopar leaf springs.

There are cars running 8s, 9s, and 10 on Super stock style springs, so there is still a lot of potential in them. Good front and rear shocks that have different settings to take advantage of the springs will go far.The biggest reasons to switch to an aftermarket suspension system are A) you run so many different tracks in different conditions you need to have the adjustability to get the last thousandth of a second out of a set up. B) need to be able to quickly change springs rates for track conditions. C) you want to lighten up the car. D) you want the latest go fast goody.

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Re: aftermarket rear suspension and traction
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008 - 10:11:29 PM »
the reason i was going to go to an aftermarket system was for the ride. i figure if i can improve ride and increase traction i would do it but it's not sounding promising. i think i might go to cal tracs, i installed them on my dart and found these to work awsome. i might switch to a shock with a remote adjustment, the ones i have right now have to be removed to adjust so needless to say they never get touched.

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Re: aftermarket rear suspension and traction
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2008 - 11:22:06 PM »
It isn't unlikely, it is just a kind of diminishing returns investment. I look at it this way, with a careful selection of components you can have a complete, stock appearing, suspension system that gets 95% of the performance you want for a couple of grand. When I say system, I mean front and back. For three times that amount of money you get get to 98% performance with any of of several aftermarket set ups. For five times that money you can to the 99% range.

Now, that isn't to say that it makes no sense to go with an aftermarket suspension, just that you have to decide what is important to you and how you want to use it. For some, the ability to adjust the car up and down while manipulating wheel rates means they can justify the cost of an air bag system. For some the WOW!!! factor of the best thing available is important.  For others, the value per dollar spent is important.

With the air system you can always alter preload to adjust traction and alter mounting points to optimize geometry. After that, adjustments can be easily changed. However, with adjustable shackles, adjustable hangers, adjustable shocks, some spring clamps and some track time, you can also dial in the stock leaf springs to perform very capably if not better with no major alterations. It comes down to personal preference.

But, remember this is just my opinion. Others here will disagree with me and they are some what right or there wouldn't be such a growing aftermarket suspension business. I'm just old school that way. Besides, I love the shock factor of kicking booty with what is an otherwise stock looking set up that is dialed in to the teeth.

BTW, have you read the mopar chassis manual on suspension tuning? Might be worth picking up.

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Re: aftermarket rear suspension and traction
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2008 - 12:51:30 AM »
you know, i have never read anything on suspension, that's the best advise ive got from anyone, thanks.