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Offline imean340

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Any way to tell?
« on: October 06, 2008 - 01:59:43 PM »
When I was taking my alternator off, the brush assembly literally crumbled while pulling the plug off and the brush shot out. The brush looked pretty worn anyway and I was hoping to get a new alternator as I think this one has seen a few too many years. Is there any way to tell if it's a 60amp or not? Anybody know of any cheap places to buy mopar alternators (I don't mind if it's rebuilt, it just has to be rebuilt well...i've heard of some problems with typical parts store stuff).

I was looking at this alternator
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM-812106&N=700+4294925143+4294839060+4294880793+4294925081+4294908110+4294840100+115&autoview=sku

but to be honest, I could do without the chrome lol. The price is in my range though. I run a small stereo system but that's about it. Maybe one day I may have an elec fuel pump but probably not in the near future. I figure the 60amp would work fine for that.  What do you guys think? Any advice?
Kris
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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2008 - 02:54:04 PM »
 :dunno: Good question, I'm curious myself.  Sorry I don't have an answer for you.  I dunno if Mopars are like this but GM alternators had a stamp on the casing but with so many rebuild that an alternator can go through I doubt that the stamping on the case may be acurrate anyhows...  :dunno:

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1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2008 - 03:14:14 PM »
:dunno: Good question, I'm curious myself.  Sorry I don't have an answer for you.  I dunno if Mopars are like this but GM alternators had a stamp on the casing but with so many rebuild that an alternator can go through I doubt that the stamping on the case may be acurrate anyhows...  :dunno:

 :popcorn:

Good point. Even if it was more aps than 60, im thinking that a fresh 60amp will do just as good of a job as an old, decrepit 75 amp lol. Anyone have any experience with that summit alternator?
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'70 340 challenger- 69 crank and block,  bored .030 over, speed pro forged pistons, eagle forged I beam rods, 2.02/1.60 "J" heads, 3 angle valve job, 230*/230* .480/.480 110LSA cam, Eddy performer manifold, hooker supercomp 1 3/4's headers, Holley 670 street avenger, TACTRANS 727, Protorque converter, 4.56 gears, L60 M/T "I" treads, SS springs, 70/30+50/50 drag shocks---spray coming soon---

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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2008 - 06:02:54 PM »
Good point. Even if it was more aps than 60, im thinking that a fresh 60amp will do just as good of a job as an old, decrepit 75 amp lol. Anyone have any experience with that summit alternator?

I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about Summit's alternator. I would be tempted to bite the bullet though. Anything you find locally at a parts store will be rebuilt. I've bought absolutely dead rebuilt alternators. Nice.   :eek7: I'm almost positive you will have the old 60 Amp variety if it is square back.


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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2008 - 06:17:13 PM »
don't buy an alt bigger than the amp wires would handle.  non ac will be factory around 35/45 amps. You can install 60 and 65 amp ones on there, but if you go bigger, you need the propper wire size to carry the amp load. Or it will get hot, melt the wire coating and do a lot of damage. May even catch the car on fire.  I run my 70 bh car with no ac with a 45 amp.  No issues. But big radios need big amps, so be careful. Also remember that all those amps go through your steering column. And will burn the plug splice connector as well. Along with the turn signal switch. 

Stay within your margins. Good brand rebuilts over the counter for the most part do last.  Stay away from things like home of the lifetime warranty.

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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2008 - 07:20:07 PM »
Stick with an AM radio and 8-track!!!!  :icon16:  :naughty:  :screwy:

1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2008 - 08:11:17 PM »
Hey Super Blue 72,
I have one of those in a cassette....
Was in the Cuda & sounded pretty good for a old stereo.Took it out with my original am/fm factory unit and put a Sony in the dash..

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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008 - 08:26:24 PM »
Follow Goody's lead & put in a Denso
http://www.goodysgotacuda.com/HowTo.html
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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008 - 09:15:17 PM »
Hey Super Blue 72,
I have one of those in a cassette....
Was in the Cuda & sounded pretty good for a old stereo.Took it out with my original am/fm factory unit and put a Sony in the dash..

 :clueless:  Cassette?  What's a casette?  :dunno:


 :roflsmiley:  Just kiddin'!  That looks brand new!  That's pretty high tech with the cassette!  :grinyes:  :thumbsup:
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

Phil in New England-Massachusetts  Always thank God for what you have!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/456046/1972-dodge-challenger

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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008 - 12:17:57 AM »
You might also check to see if there's an automotive electrical shop near you.  A local rebuilder, especially one that has been in business a while, can be a great alternative to an unknown sweatshop rebuild from the parts store.  I used a place in Morton Grove IL for the truck alternator with good results.

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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2008 - 09:37:40 AM »
Do they still sell parts to rebuild your own alternator?  Many moons ago they did....  :dunno:
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

Phil in New England-Massachusetts  Always thank God for what you have!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/456046/1972-dodge-challenger

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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2008 - 11:21:12 PM »
The same place I had my ND alternator rebuilt first sold me a brush set.  I've seen the bearings and brushes available at Napa, and long ago at Summit.  I don't know about the rotors and stators though, except those that came in the questionable 'amperage upgrade' kits.

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Re: Any way to tell?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2008 - 09:03:18 AM »
Thanks for the info, duodec.  :thumbsup: 
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

Phil in New England-Massachusetts  Always thank God for what you have!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/456046/1972-dodge-challenger