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Offline doncarson

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Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« on: March 16, 2009 - 01:13:22 PM »
I want to do a rebuild on my front end. The place I get my stuff from lists the kit as 70-72.

My Cuda is a 73.

Are the parts the same for my 73?

Kit is for inner/ outer tie rod ends, tie rod sleeves, upper/lower ball joints, UCA/LCA bushings, strut rod bushings.

Thanks for any help!
Don




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Re: Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009 - 02:01:15 PM »
yes, they are the same. They may cut it off at 72 because B bodies changed the front end to teh iso-cushion set up for the 73 model year and since most E bodies are classified with Bs, they show it as a cut off.

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Re: Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009 - 02:16:14 PM »
No they are Not the same , the idler & pitman arm points down through the center link on 70-72 , 73-74 the idler hooks under the center link & points up

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Re: Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009 - 02:40:10 PM »
No kidding? I guess someone changed out my 74 to use the earlier style pitman/idler then as  mine has the earlier style on it. I've since swapped them out for fast ratio units, which also point down.

For Don's purposes, they would be the same though since the kit he is after does not contain the idler or pitman.

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Re: Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009 - 09:02:20 PM »
Thanks for the info.
As always you guys are great!
Don

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Re: Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009 - 09:10:04 PM »
No they are Not the same , the idler & pitman arm points down through the center link on 70-72 , 73-74 the idler hooks under the center link & points up

 Wasn't something different with the steering box too? Different size sector shafts? Also  inner bearing on rotors changed in 73 I think? Not that I'm an expert by any stretch ! LOL
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Re: Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2009 - 07:07:40 PM »
No they are Not the same , the idler & pitman arm points down through the center link on 70-72 , 73-74 the idler hooks under the center link & points up

Is that true?  My Moog catalog gives the same part number (k7041) for 70-74 idler arms.  I never had a 73/74, don't really know.  I've also always used the cheap 73/74 pitman arm (with 73/74 stearing box) on the earlier b and e bodies.


The  70-72 pitman arms (both manual and power) do have the smaller spline hole (also 73-74 manual).
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Re: Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2009 - 09:27:27 PM »
I have seen them both ways pointing up & down & I know both parts are available
 the cone machined into the center link will not match if you use the wrong one

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Re: Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2009 - 09:29:25 PM »
How does one ID a 73/74 power steering box?
Thanks Brad
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Re: Help! Are the E body front end rebuild parts same for 70-74??
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2009 - 07:48:42 PM »
How does one ID a 73/74 power steering box?
Thanks Brad

At the widest part of the out shaft where the splines start (its a tapered shaft) a 73/74 is 1.2", a 70/72 is 1.1".


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