screen fitting mess up

[UKcuda]

I don't know if there's any easy solution to what I've done - I think probably not - but I'm telling you about it so no one else makes the same mistake.

So - I fitted my front and rear screens today.  It all went well and they are fitted and bonded just perfect.

However, when I went to fit the screen trims they went on with a huge gap between them and the glass.

I tried twisting and bending them as much as I dare but it was no good.

I can see that the problem is I fitted the trim clips too high.

When I drilled and screwed in the new clips I measured the distance from the remains of a couple of old rivets I could see.  I then duplicated that same distance measuring from the outside of the reveal.

I can see now that I should have measured it from the inside of the reveal.

The rear screen trim doesn't look too bad but the front is really not good at all, especially across the top of the screen.

The only option is to try to reposition the front clips - but we all know that's impossible with the screen in - right ?

When I've got over my disappointment I'll see what I might be able to do - at least I have a spare screen standing by !!

[Moparal]

Man, that sucks.  You got any pics of the front?

[UKcuda]

It's late here now but I'll put up some pics tomorrow if I get time.

I'm really kicking myself - I would kick the dog but she's too cute; and the wife's gone to bed.

[E-Body Products]

I would really like to see some pics too.  I just drilled some new holes for my clips as well.  I tried to duplicate the distances as well too.

Thanks for the warning.  I might try to dry fit my glass (screens) and apply the trim before I seal in the glass.

Daniel
www.ebodyproducts.com
dj1965@mikrotec.com

[Chryco Psycho]

is the chrome level with the body ?
if the chrome is lever you needed a thicker bead of sealer to raise the window , if the chrome is above the body you may be able to use shorter clips to hold the chrome in place

[UKcuda]

I'm still at work so not been able to take any pictures yet.

is the chrome level with the body ?

It's slightly higher in most places but I don't think that's the main problem.  The trim doesn't look wrong against the body, just against the glass.  Probably the screen is a bit too low but again I think that's not the whole story.

When I was repairing the roof edges I think I must have built up the area over the top of the screen higher than it was originally (the rot was right along and the roof skin was floating about so I couldn't work to that line).

I think if I can figure out a way to move the clips down using the holes I've already drilled that will get me an acceptable result.  I can get to the screw heads to remove them.

you may be able to use shorter clips

Is there such a thing ?

I am wondering if I could snug the clips down under the screws so the edge of the screw head still retains it from above where it's supposed to go through ?  (if you see what I mean).  I'll have a better chance if the base of the clip goes down to the bottom of the reveal as that will help to hold it as well (probably about where it's supposed to be).

dj1965 - I think you'll be OK as long as you find the right height and then maintain it relative to the base of the reveal.  My mistake was to measure everything from the top.  I also think that one of the old rivets I measured it all from was maybe a bit of a rogue one and a little too high - I did notice they were not the same height as each other.

Of course, if you dry fit the screen to check the level you'll need to fake the thickness of the sealer.

[hotrod98]

You may have the glass set in too close to the pinch weld. If the molding snaps in and is flush with the body, then the glass is definitely set too deep. What did you use to set the glass? If you used butyl ribbon, remove the glass and then use the next size thicker. If you used 5/16, use 3/8. We have used a trick in the past of cutting small rubber blocks to the thickness that will set the glass in at the correct depth. You will need to tape the blocks in place, set the glass in and clip a molding in to check the fit. If it looks good just use either the correct thickness butyl ribbon or use urethane. Don't forget to remove the tape that was holding the blocks in place. Glue them in using a small amount of the butyl if using butyl or urenhane if using urethane.
Hope that helps more them it confuses.
Note, to keep glass from sliding down, always place a couple of rubber blocks at the bottom of the glass on each side to keep it from sliding. If you're using butyl ribbon, they usually come in the box with the ribbons.

[UKcuda]

If the molding snaps in and is flush with the body, then the glass is definitely set too deep

Thanks but it seems I have have increased the depth of the reveal during the resto.  This is a way bigger gap than a difference in sealer thickness can account for.

I have some photos somewhere of when I was repairing it - I'll try to find them so you will see how it happened.

[UKcuda]

OK this is the back but I did something similar at the front - looks like I created most of the problem myself:

[dutch]

that looks pretty deep to me...  what`s the height ?  ( in millimeters if possible)  I still have both windows out and original sheetmetal. 

[ntstlgl1970]

You may have the glass set in too close to the pinch weld. If the molding snaps in and is flush with the body, then the glass is definitely set too deep. What did you use to set the glass? If you used butyl ribbon, remove the glass and then use the next size thicker. If you used 5/16, use 3/8. We have used a trick in the past of cutting small rubber blocks to the thickness that will set the glass in at the correct depth. You will need to tape the blocks in place, set the glass in and clip a molding in to check the fit. If it looks good just use either the correct thickness butyl ribbon or use urethane. Don't forget to remove the tape that was holding the blocks in place. Glue them in using a small amount of the butyl if using butyl or urenhane if using urethane.
Hope that helps more them it confuses.
Note, to keep glass from sliding down, always place a couple of rubber blocks at the bottom of the glass on each side to keep it from sliding. If you're using butyl ribbon, they usually come in the box with the ribbons.

I'm going to try that when I'm ready to install my glass. good info!