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challenger_73
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Cam bolts
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January 13, 2011 - 02:06:55 PM »
Does anyone have a picture of which way the camber bolts go in or can anyone tell me?
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Re: Cam bolts
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January 13, 2011 - 07:12:18 PM »
outside and nuts to the inside I do beleive
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Challenger6pak
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Re: Cam bolts
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January 13, 2011 - 08:18:18 PM »
Your memory is correct Allen.
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challenger_73
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Re: Cam bolts
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January 13, 2011 - 09:31:01 PM »
Thanks guys! I was confused because my manual shows two breakdowns & one shows the nuts to the outside and the other shows the nuts to the inside. I appreciate the help. Thanks again.
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Re: Cam bolts
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January 14, 2011 - 12:08:41 PM »
I have always installed them with the head of the bolt in the wheelwell & the lock nuts inside the engine compartment , I assume this is what you mean by inside & outside ?
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Challenger6pak
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January 14, 2011 - 12:24:34 PM »
Yes it is. I don't think the bolts will fit in the holes if you put the heads on the outside of engine compartment.
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January 14, 2011 - 04:20:04 PM »
when you take the dust plates off, that is where the nut and washer is so you can loosen the assembly, I said it backwards as usual. The shaft and ecentric goes in from the center of the upper control arm. Sorry for the confusion.
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Challenger6pak
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January 14, 2011 - 04:42:25 PM »
I had to go check a couple of cars. I had it turned around in my mind. The nut goes inside the engine compartment. It makes sense. If the nut were exposed to the elements it would be a bear to loosen.
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Re: Cam bolts
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January 15, 2011 - 12:36:00 AM »
I see a lot of them painted body color which is wrong. They should be phosphated. I used a black oxide kit from Caswell plating to replicate the phosphate look. New cam bolts come zinc plated.
I was looking at a Challenger at the Nat's a few years back while it was being judged. The judge noticed the bolts installed wrong and told the owner. The owner didn't believe the judge and said the bolts wouldn't go in from wheelwell.
The ICCA website says that the bolts should NOT have a flat on one side but my origonal 73 bolts do. Does anyone know if the earlier years didn't use a cam bolt with a flat?
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Challenger6pak
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January 15, 2011 - 12:54:17 AM »
That pic is from my SE. It is far from being restored. It was spray bombed black all over the engine compartment and all over all the assesories and wiring in the engine compartment. It is a real mess. If the bolt did not have a flat spot the cam would not be held in place. The cam would then just become a washer. All the bolts would have to have the flat spot. I am understanding your question correctly?
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Re: Cam bolts
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January 15, 2011 - 09:13:24 AM »
:iagree:the bolts have to have a flat side so the washer will turn with the bolt otherwise there is no point to having a cammd bolt / washer
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burdar
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January 15, 2011 - 06:58:50 PM »
The cam is built into the bolt on the other end so it really doesn't matter if the loose cam washer has a flat or not, but I agree that it makes sence that it does. The wording on the ICCA site isn't very clear.
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January 15, 2011 - 07:39:38 PM »
It needs the flat on the thread end
or it will jam. Which will be excessively hard to do the front end alignment. The control arms are a ***** to adjust and keep square with out both concentrics.
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challenger_73
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Re: Cam bolts
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January 16, 2011 - 09:05:29 AM »
Thanks again guys,
I'm glad you posted. I had them in backwards. I appreciate the help.
Tony = challenger_73
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