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    Offline acudanut

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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #15 on: March 04, 2010 - 04:33:29 PM »
     Have you contacted the FDA ? They will answer your concerns directly. Forget about what you read. Go the the source. :2cents:
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #16 on: March 04, 2010 - 05:36:56 PM »
    Quote from: acudanut on March 04, 2010 - 04:33:29 PM
    Have you contacted the FDA ? They will answer your concerns directly. Forget about what you read. Go the the source. :2cents:

    So, we should trust "the source" (FDA) despite lots of evidence contrary to what they have approved as being "safe"?
     
    The approval process has allowed many dangerous drugs to reach the market. A recent analysis showed that of all new drugs approved from 1975 to 1999, almost 3% were subsequently withdrawn for safety reasons, and 8% acquired "black box warnings" of potentially serious side effects.

    According to The Los Angeles Times, 7 drugs withdrawn between 1993 and 2000 had been approved while the FDA disregarded "danger signs or blunt warnings from its own specialists. Then, after receiving reports of significant harm to patients, the agency was slow to seek withdrawals." These drugs were suspected in 1002 deaths reported to FDA. None were life-saving drugs. They included, for example, one for heartburn (cisapride), a diet pill (dexfenfluramine), and a painkiller (bromfenac). The Times reported that the 7 drugs had US sales of $5 billion before they were recalled.

    When you consider the huge amount of money riding on approval of drugs and foods, is it any surprise that things get approved that perhaps shouldn't be?  Corruption, bribery, pressure, threats?????

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    Offline torredcuda

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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #17 on: March 04, 2010 - 05:52:04 PM »
    We`ve all seen the commercials or read the warning page that comes with prescription drugs for the "side effects" yet most of us still take them with out any problems.My father the health nut no longer eats red meat b/c "it has been shown" to cause cancer,how many of us will go vegitarian?
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #18 on: March 05, 2010 - 04:44:12 AM »
    Quote from: shadango on March 04, 2010 - 11:31:58 AM
    I think the word "disguise" sort of infers that there is some sort of criminal or unethical activity here.

    Not sure what this doctor is looking to do......get the government to step in and make the stuff illegal? Or line his own pockets like Al Gore did? :clueless:

    Has to be one or the other...otherwise he is just flapping his gums.

    Not saying anyone is wrong or right. Or that some "natural remedies" dont work.  After all, these remedies are simply natural versions of chemicals, modern medicines are man-made versions of the same chemicals.....both can work and BOTH can have serious side effects.

    Just sayin'.   :bigsmile:   
    This doctor along with others is trying and has for many years to have this product put back on the poisons list. I don't think he is as shallow as Al Gore.
    Chemical companies spend a lot of money trying to find the active ingredients in natural or herbal medicines and then make inferior copies to sell to the public, trouble is they usually don't get the formula completely right.

    Some of the side effects....

    Multiple sclerosis     Parkinson's disease
    Alzheimer's disease    Fibromyalgia
    Arthritis                    Multiple chemical sensitivity
    Chronic fatigue syndrome    Attention deficit disorder
    Panic disorder            Depression and other psychological disorders
    Lupus                    Diabetes and diabetic complications
    Birth defects            Lymphoma
    Lyme disease            Hypothyroidism

    An interesting DVD I picked up a few years back... Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World

    I think that it can be purchased through Dr. Mercola, I bought it because I had been hearing about Aspartame for many years and didn't have enough hard info on the subject.    :bigsmile:
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #19 on: March 05, 2010 - 09:54:00 AM »
     We all are going to die of something.  Just eat, drink or smoke it if it makes life better for you and die happy. :cheers:
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    Offline Mentally Challenged

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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #20 on: March 05, 2010 - 10:22:59 AM »
    Quote from: acudanut on March 05, 2010 - 09:54:00 AM
    We all are going to die of something.  Just eat, drink or smoke it if it makes life better for you and die happy. :cheers:

     :iagree:
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #21 on: March 05, 2010 - 11:03:10 AM »
    Quote from: torredcuda on March 04, 2010 - 05:52:04 PM
    We`ve all seen the commercials or read the warning page that comes with prescription drugs for the "side effects" yet most of us still take them with out any problems.My father the health nut no longer eats red meat b/c "it has been shown" to cause cancer,how many of us will go vegitarian?
    I'll go vegetarian the day they start making veggies out of meat.   :)
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #22 on: March 05, 2010 - 11:07:36 AM »
    Quote from: dutch on March 04, 2010 - 12:19:16 PM
    you can`t just compare it to smoking.  if you do want to smoke, don`t smoke...

    Actually, (and not to argue), its not that simple.

    Second hand smoke has been "shown" to result in problems for non smokers....Cant tell you how many times i have had to walk thru a cloud of that crap ...or how many times I have gotten a cloud of that garbage stuck in my motorcycle helmet when following behind some guy smoking like a train in teh car in front of me.

    Its very much the same.

    You cant control what you are exposed to in many instances.

    All food products sold in the US are required to list the ingredients so there's your fix there. Cant call that "hidden".

    Anything marked "sugar free" that tastes sweet is a no brainer IMHO.  Just dont use them and assume they have this "deadly chemical" in them.

    We have to take some responsibility for what we stuff in our pieholes.

    So in many ways, its exactly the same argument IMHO.
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #23 on: March 05, 2010 - 11:09:30 AM »
    My wife's been dead set against that stuff from day one... No diet (aspertame) stuff in my house at all!  :grinno:

    But then with all the preservatives I've probly ate over the years I'll live to be 200!  :cooldancing:
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #24 on: March 05, 2010 - 11:14:46 AM »
    Quote from: Aussie Challenger on March 05, 2010 - 04:44:12 AM
    This doctor along with others is trying and has for many years to have this product put back on the poisons list. I don't think he is as shallow as Al Gore.
    Chemical companies spend a lot of money trying to find the active ingredients in natural or herbal medicines and then make inferior copies to sell to the public, trouble is they usually don't get the formula completely right.

    Some of the side effects....

    Multiple sclerosis     Parkinson's disease
    Alzheimer's disease    Fibromyalgia
    Arthritis                    Multiple chemical sensitivity
    Chronic fatigue syndrome    Attention deficit disorder
    Panic disorder            Depression and other psychological disorders
    Lupus                    Diabetes and diabetic complications
    Birth defects            Lymphoma
    Lyme disease            Hypothyroidism

    An interesting DVD I picked up a few years back... Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World

    I think that it can be purchased through Dr. Mercola, I bought it because I had been hearing about Aspartame for many years and didn't have enough hard info on the subject.    :bigsmile:

    Oh come on.

    If all those diseaes are caused by this sweetener, seems liek we could wipe out most of the disease in teh world by getting rid of it.  LOL

    I'd like to see the studies that prove that all of these diseases are in fact side effects of this sweetener.

    Having a Dr. (who sells books by the way) say it is so doesnt make it so.

    Remember that many of the people who would be interested in using a diet sweetener to begin with probably have underlying health issues, many of which would be in that list.

    For instance...diabetics cant eat real sugar....but they CAN eat aspartame.  What a coincidence that a study showed that some people who ate aspartame also had diabetes as a "side effect".....   LOL

    To do any real study you would need a group of people who are 100% healthy and have no history of any of those issues ...then feed them aspartame over a long period of years...then see what happens.

    There is NO WAY to do that....so the experts gather "data" they can sell as relevant and then scare the public into believing it.

    I am not saying there are not any side effects to this or any other chemical.

    What I am saying is that you cant believe everything a "Dr" says.

    And dont forget that the natural remedy companies make a KILLING on misinformation.
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #25 on: March 05, 2010 - 11:15:44 AM »
    Quote from: BIGSHCLUNK on March 05, 2010 - 11:09:30 AM
    My wife's been dead set against that stuff from day one... No diet (aspertame) stuff in my house at all!  :grinno:

    But then with all the preservatives I've probly ate over the years I'll live to be 200!  :cooldancing:

    My wife and I have joked about the preservatives stuff....we'll have GREAT looking corpses.....self-mummification basically!  LOL
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #26 on: March 05, 2010 - 01:12:53 PM »
    I agree that the rebranding and renaming of essentially the same chemical ingredient makes it difficult to track what you are consuming, and if you are trying to stay away from it for whatever your reason it makes it hard to do.
    It may or may not cause problems in some people, but as long as clearly naming the ingredients is the law, it should not be done deceptively.
    And I also agree that just because someone says it's so, and sells a book, it doesnt make it true.
    I'm a natural skeptic, so I dont know what to believe anymore! :bigsmile:
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    Re: America's Deadliest Sweetner
    « Reply #27 on: March 05, 2010 - 05:21:57 PM »
    I only put this info up for anybody to read and make up their own minds. I do believe it's a real problem but each to their own, we will only keep going around in circles now.
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