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Offline D70challenger

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media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« on: August 03, 2010 - 06:49:45 PM »
hey guys, i was wonderign if i should have the body of my chally soda blasted and then the welding/patch work done, or if it should be the other way around?


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Re: media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010 - 07:01:42 PM »
Definitely blast then patch!   :thumbsup:

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Re: media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010 - 07:09:33 PM »
Strip entire outside panels by hand also back of hood and deck .
remove rusted areas next then blast ,remember that soda- sand -shells and every thing else will warp with pressure .
all warping is human error also all media even silican balls leave a bad residue.
My shells always get washed with a couple 5 gallon drums of wash thinner with a plain old paint gun as you wash the car you will see black silt wash from the panels do this till the thinner comes clean leaving the outer panels till last ,then prime less rusted areas to be repaired .
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Re: media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010 - 07:10:21 PM »
thanks, it needs to be soda blasted right? cause wont other media damage the body?


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Re: media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2010 - 08:32:01 PM »
I had mine media blasted, not sure what it was, but not sand, not shells, not soda.  They did a great job with no warpage.
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Re: media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010 - 09:57:42 PM »
I had mine media blasted, not sure what it was, but not sand, not shells, not soda.  They did a great job with no warpage.
You probably had yours done with beads , sand crushed shells and soda and beads are all media by definition .
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Re: media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010 - 02:05:36 PM »
I had mine media blasted, not sure what it was, but not sand, not shells, not soda.  They did a great job with no warpage.

ksierens,
Where did you have this done? I am also in Michigan & may do this to the new 70 Charger I just acquired last week.   
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Re: media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010 - 02:53:42 PM »
When I blasted the underside of my car using a pressure pot I discovered some things that really made a difference:

First, I used Aluminum Oxide. It's a very fast cutting aggresive media. Sounds dangerous to use you would think! Wrong! That IS what you want. Ideally, strip as fast as possible means that the there is less repeated media hammering the sheetmetal over and over. THAT is what creates sheetmetal warpage, not the type of media itself. Plus it gives a slight rough surface finish that the epoxy primer can really bite into.

Secondly, Since you are using a more aggresive media, you will really need to turn down the air PSI and media volume. This takes a little practice figuring out what's ideal. I slowed mine way down when doing tight corner areas underneath where I knew I needed to keep media exposure longer. Never stop moving the tip. 5-8 inches away depending on PSI, tip pointed at a 45 degree angle from the surface, media going away, stay in even slight overlaps. Never point tip straight at surface.

Thirdly, I didn't really need to media blast the outside of my car. The sheetmetal under the paint was all very rust free. So I opted paint stripper instead. IMHO, media blasting the outside should be done for cars that really show signs of heavy rust all over. Blasting a whole car inside and out means you will have a huge job later on cleaning media out for a long time after. It never stops coming out. I have just the underside done and I still see it coming out of the frame holes occasionally.  I hear the best way to get it out of all little frame holes and nooks is to get a blower at high speed while it's sideways on a rotisserie. Then a blow tip followed up after.

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If you opt to do it yourself, you'll need a jumpsuit, hearing protection, a blasting helmet, and good air filter respiration. DO NOT use sand! Silica dust is very dangerous to breathe when sand breaks down into dust.
Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010 - 08:59:48 PM »
This is where I had the convertible blasted at.  I was happy with the results. 

http://www.acestripping.net/

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Re: media blasting then metal patch? or vis-versa?
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010 - 10:49:09 AM »
ksierens,
Where did you have this done? I am also in Michigan & may do this to the new 70 Charger I just acquired last week.

I had mine done at Modern Stripping in Mt. Clemens, but I don't think they are in business anymore.  Now I take my stuff to Strip It All. Not exactly sure what they used, but I am sure it was not shells, glass beads or soda.  I think it was some type of blend with plastic beads in it.
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