Tranny (overdrive) help

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Tranny (overdrive) help
« on: November 09, 2004 - 08:14:55 PM »
I really really want to get overdrive for the Cuda.  Gear Vendors stuff looks easy enough but the prices make me want to cry $2000+  puke ).  Was reading an article about the A-518 Tranny and there was a mention some fabrication

 **You'll need to shorten the driveshaft and do some fabricating to get it to clear the transmission and torsion-bar crossmember.**


Here is the link to the article 

http://www.moparaction.com/Tech/questions/OVERDRIVE.html

Does anyone have any input on this?  How difficult is it to do this?  Me and tranny's never really got to know eachother all too well and the idea scares me a little.  All I know is that if I wanna drive the Cuda to Carlisle this summer I want to do something to make the trip a little easier on the car.




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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2004 - 12:50:57 AM »
the easiest swap is the 833 OD from a 76-90 Dodge truck or Van , the 518 is physically bigger than the 727 & will require floor & crossmember fabrication to install , the gear vendors is plenty strong but not a bolt in either

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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2004 - 11:01:05 AM »
the gear venders is $2800 ish almost the price of a 5speed when you add the tranny to that.
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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2004 - 03:45:28 PM »
I have an A-518 transmission in my Cuda currently.    It has served me well for the last 3 years.   The transmission bolted to the back of my 360 with no problems.    I did'nt try to connect my trans-fluid lines to  the radiator.    Instead, I ran them to a separate trans-fluid-cooler.   The fun comes in supporting the back of the transmission.    The floor pans did not have to be cut or modified.    I had to remove a U-shaped piece of metal that runs above where the cross member would bolt.   This allowed the clearance I needed.   In addition to this, I has to modify the cross member to allow the back of the transmission to mount about 2 inckes below where the 727 would sit.   Of course the drive shaft has to be shortened a bit and the whole thing works very well.    I've experienced no vibration or alignment issues.   The original floor mounted shifter hooked up with a little modification to the shifter bracket that bolts to the bottom of the 727 trans.    The conversion does require a little fabrication, but most of it is straight forward and self-explanatory.

On a performance note, the A-518 completely woke up with the addition of a Transgo skift kit.   The car felt very responsive and crisp with the shift kit like a performance car should.

In conclusion, I would say that the benefits of having the overdrive along with the 3.91 gears by far outweigh the troubles with the installation.   Interior noise levels are lower, better gas mileage and sustaining highway cruising speeds make the car much more practical.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2004 - 10:19:37 AM by 1974Cuda360 »
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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2004 - 12:30:08 AM »
The cross member that you cut is a major structure & should be supported as the torsion bars load against that  crossmember 

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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2004 - 10:14:53 AM »
You are probably right Chryco.    Removing the U-shaped piece of metal above where the cross member bolts would probably weaken structural integrety.    Particularily, if nothing else was done to reinforce the structure.     I have not experienced any problems or issues that could relate to structural integrety in the three years that I have used the A-518 transmission.     It is important for me to mention that structural integrety issues were anticipated by the welder/fabricator that I used to modify my transmission's cross member.    He significantly beefed up the modified crossmember which is now a lot stronger and thicker than the stock cross member.    Not only is the modified cross member serving the purpose of supporting the rear of the transmission it also reinforces the vehicles structure.    This is probably the reason that the car feels as solid as it does.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2004 - 10:17:42 AM by 1974Cuda360 »
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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2004 - 11:04:26 AM »
maks sense , I just didn`t want to see someone cut the crossmember & do nothing to support that area

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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2004 - 12:33:18 AM »
any more info on the 833 cryco?
is it basically a bolt in?
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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2004 - 05:16:49 AM »
yes < I have converted a number of cars to the 833 OD other than the front brg retainer & some fiddling with the shift link lengths it si a bolt in swap

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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2004 - 10:28:35 AM »
you cant use an overdrive with a high stall converter right.... spank
I know gearvendors told me i couldnt with there unit or i would have gotten it...

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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2004 - 02:13:43 PM »
ok, might be wrong here, but isn't the 833 a manual?
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Re: Tranny (overdrive) help
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2004 - 12:48:33 PM »
the 833 is the manual 4 spd tranny
 I do not know about using a high stall with the 518 auto 4 spd

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