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Offline EMCD

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1972 cuda
« on: February 10, 2011 - 10:51:36 AM »
I finally got my buddy to unload his cuda for a fair price and brought it home last week. it hasn't started in 10 years and has been used as storage for all his kids toys. it has the 340 4bl, 727 on the tree, 100k on the original motor. There is some rust on the rear quarter panels behind the rear tires, but that it. The paint is fried from the colorado sun and the interior is wrecked, but all there. I changed the oil and filter, filled up the coolant, and put in fresh gas and a fuel filter. it will only start when i dump gas into the carb. I'm a novice at car repair, but understand how to do it in principle. I'm  getting it towed today to get it running then will start tweaking the motor to get more power if the compression looks good. Any suggestions that won't break the bank? I got a quote yesterday to do the paint and body work for 8-15k.. OUCH. it doesn't look that bad...




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Re: 1972 cuda
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011 - 10:56:43 AM »
Fuel pump?  Carb rebuild?  And new plugs,cap,rotor.  Colorado!?!?post up some pics when you can. And welcome!! R/T
'73 340 5 speed,RMS,BAER,... "Supercuda" (O[   ]||||[   ]O)  
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Re: 1972 cuda
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011 - 03:29:16 PM »
 :iagree:
For cars that have sat along while, I always replace the fuel pump and water pump.  Other work would include:
Change engine oil & filter, suggest using diesel engine oil because it has the extra zinc to help the flat tappet cams survive.  Today's oils have very little zinc...pollution EPA stuff, and it is NOT good for older cars with flat tappet cams.  Do some oil/zinc searches on this forum and there is a wealth of info & suggestions.

Drain and flush out the radiator & engine block, then new 50/50 antifreeze, maybe replace the thermostat & gasket.

Flush brake fluid, suction all the brake fluid out of the brake master cylinder and then refill & bleed all 4 brakes at the wheels.   Use DOT 3 or 4, DO NOT use DOT 5.

Remove trany pan, drain all trany fluid out & drain torque convertor if it has a drain plug, then replace trany filter (accessible with trany pan removed), replace pan gasket, and refill.  Then need to run engine till fully warmed up, slowly shift trany thru all gears and check fluid with engine running in neutral or park...I foreget which one.

The body shop work will be expensive, and the rust is always worse than we all think.  So only dive into the body work when you have deep enough $$ pockets, and depending on how good a job you want be very careful choosing a body shop.  So many of us (me included) have been taken by poor body shop/paint work.

The 72 340 was a lower compression engine.  The engine cylinder heads will need hardened exhaust valve seats, which is somewhat costly.  The hard valve seats are due to todays unleaded gas which beats the crap out of the exhaust seats.   Compare cost of refurbishing your old cylinder heads with simply replacing them with new heads.  Several are available, such as RHS, etc. The factory intake manifold is a very good piece, wont get much torque/power improvement there; if your going to go aluminum intake manifold look for an Edelbrock LD-340 intake.  Keep your eyes open and find one for sale at a discount.  They show up on this forum now and then.. Do some searches on this forum to get ideas.  It all costs $$ anymore.
Sounds like you have a great car to start with.  Good Luck!!!
« Last Edit: February 12, 2011 - 03:41:12 PM by femtnmax »
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Re: 1972 cuda
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011 - 04:04:54 PM »
Welcome and good luck with getting the engine running.  Can't really add anything. Femtnmax and IMNCARN82
pretty much covered it. And remember  :useless:   :2thumbs:
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda.  Matching numbers 440 U Code, 4 speed pistol grip, Rallye dash, AM 8 Track, Shaker hood, 15 inch rallye wheels, Dana 60 4.10, Super Track Pak.  One of 134 - 440 "U" coupes codes built in 1970 and one of 100 - 440 Super Track Paks built in 1970.

Restoration pictures at:  http://spanks4thememory.smugmug.com/Cars/70-Cuda/7240639_M24oi#465274575_2MBqW
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Re: 1972 cuda
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011 - 07:49:16 AM »
I imagine your carburetor needs rebuilding especially if it's the original style Thermoquad. I have accelerator pump problems if mine sits long enough for the fuel to dry out, about a month in warm weather.
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Re: 1972 cuda
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011 - 01:07:27 PM »
Welcome !! 

What part of Colorado?
Got any pictures of your car? 

There are some great suggestions to fix the car above. 
'Should work fine with a little love!!
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Re: 1972 cuda
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011 - 05:24:28 PM »
I'm in the dever area. All my pics are high res and are too big to post. I'll try to scale them down tomorrow. So, if i'm sending my car to the garage to get someone else to get it running and safe, what should I expect it to cost me? I've never rebuild a carb and feel that I might just make it worse by trying.

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Re: 1972 cuda
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2011 - 08:51:42 PM »
I am sure one of the members here could tell you someone good to go to in Denver.

I have a great guy down in Colorado Springs, who sometimes does mobile calls. 

Let me know if you need to talk to someone who can give you some pricing anyway.  PM me.
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Re: 1972 cuda
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2011 - 09:46:23 AM »
Thanks for all your help. The car should be road worthy by this weekend. I'm going to take it out and run it for a few hundred miles to see how it handles. Next plan of attack will be a compression test to see how my #'s look.