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Offline brads70

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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2011 - 03:35:07 PM »
Thanks for all your great advice, you guys are awesome, i will look in to the importing rules etc

thanks again guys
If you get one DO NOT use DAS shipping! again DO NOT!!!!!
They took 4 months and did 4 grand damage to my car then walked/ran away!
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Offline Paul C

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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2011 - 03:55:05 PM »
 :swear: bunch of idiots, thanks for the heads up  :villagers:
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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2011 - 08:04:09 PM »
I don't think you will get that one for 7G.  Why not get a later one like a '73 or '74 for example?? You could pick up a later chassis and put the early front end on.
Just a thought

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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2011 - 08:35:18 PM »
Paul, how are you?

Where are you in Canada?  Here are a couple in Canada.  May not be too near but no import tax since not from USA?  :dunno:

Here's a '73 in Vancouver:  http://vancouver.fr.craigslist.ca/van/cto/2463796442.html



A '71 in Vancouver? http://vancouver.fr.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/2452403806.html



Here's a '70, but $35k over budget  :(  :http://vancouver.fr.craigslist.ca/van/cto/2443282001.html

Another '72: http://vancouver.fr.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/2421906067.html

Hope you find something...

As the others have said, it might be better off finding a later year car (72-74) that is in better shape for that amount of money than buying a project '70 that you may have to spend considerable more money to restore.  In the Massachusetts area, a non Rally '72-'74 Challenger big block car can range from $8k to $15k.

But if a '70 Challenger is your dream car, go for it if there is no substitute.  :)
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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2011 - 07:20:27 AM »
I am in Toronto, but i am willing to trailer from where ever is necessary, the 1970 Challenger is my dream car and i think i will be cheating myself if i settle for a different year.  I am prepared to wait as long as necessary for the right car, because when it is built and ready to rip up the asphalt i know its in the car i have always wanted.........but thanks for all the great advice this forum is probably the best i have ever been on.....keep up all the good work
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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2011 - 08:56:03 AM »
Toronto?  I have a couple cousins in that area.  Nice city.

Keep looking around locally too, not just Ebay.  A lot od time local people just want to move a car and not just profit from it.  Look around craigslist, get to know some car guys, go to some shows and get your feelers out.  Never know when the right time comes for someone to sell there car. 

After knowing some local car guys in my town I think I know where the majority of muscle cars are, including a white 1970 Challenger that is basically a 5 minute drive from me and didn't even know it was there until last month.

If you do find a nice car, get to know the owner and let them know your interest in their car if they ever intend to sell it.  Leave your phone # and tell them to put it in the glovebox if they ever decide to sell.  Sometimes knowing that a car is going to someone locally that will cherish the car may make someone sell it more than Ebaying it to a complete stranger and having to deal with transportatio and such.
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2011 - 09:14:28 AM »
I know there are a few car shows and swap meets happening soon, so i will be heading out to those..............stay tuned  :naughty:
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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2011 - 09:24:48 AM »
I am in Toronto, but i am willing to trailer from where ever is necessary, the 1970 Challenger is my dream car and i think i will be cheating myself if i settle for a different year.  I am prepared to wait as long as necessary for the right car, because when it is built and ready to rip up the asphalt i know its in the car i have always wanted.........but thanks for all the great advice this forum is probably the best i have ever been on.....keep up all the good work

That is the smartest thing you can do IMHO.  I was looking for either a 'cuda or Challenger.  Went to the Chrysler Museum and in Walt's garage, there was a '70 'cuda nose-to-nose with a '70 Challenger.  Worth the price of admission to me to stand there and look them both over.  Decided I liked the 'cuda better.  Then started seriously looking for one.  Could have settled for a later model and less money, but would have regretted not buying the one I wanted with the options I wanted.  So I bought it and no regrets.  Good luck with your search.

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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2011 - 10:35:13 AM »
I live in Canada and bought a US 70 Challenger and can offer some advice:



The car needs a title and it has to be faxed to the US customs 72 hours prior to your crossing the border with the car.
70 Challengers have 70 only parts that are expensive to replace so it is best that the car you buy has them:console, radio trim dash bezels, headlight bezels, seatbelts. things like seats and markerlights as well.
I had a 8 hour travel restriction as you couldn't count on transport service timelines so I picked it up myself. Rust repair is fine but make sure the frame is solid. Most parts I bought came from the US so now is a good time to buy with the $$  at par

Good luck

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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2011 - 02:00:46 PM »
to be honest the way i look at it is, its going to be expensive anyways................but so worth the end product  :droolingbounce:
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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2011 - 08:36:12 AM »
Yeah thats a hell of a deal, saw it too late though, work is getting in the way at the moment....but yeah looks like there are some bargins out there to be had
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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2011 - 10:31:21 AM »
Hey Paul .... just noticed your thread on buying the 1970 Challenger.   I am in Markham, Ontario (north east of Toronto).

From my Experience .... I am four years plus into my restoration.   I too bought a ebay car that was solid (at least the frame, floors and trunk .. paid too much (impatient).   Buyer beware ..... take the flight and go see the car or find an independent car appraiser in the area that the car is located before buying.

I had to replace about 2/3 of the outer skin.   Then there was the all the small parts.... about $10k+ worth.   Then there was the shaker setup ..... and the paint .... and the driveline .... then the interior and trim.    It gets expensive quickly and adds up.    I kept a spreadsheet of my purchases and it shocked me all the $20 to $175 items I purchased and had shipped from the U.S.   USPS is best for shipping parts.... don't use UPS .... brokerage fees.

It was an interesting and learning excercise.   If I did it all over again I would buy an already restored car and improve on it.   I don't believe my 70 Challenger R/T is worth what I have spent on it over four years.   This does not include the thousands of hours researching and finding pieces on the internet.    Bottom line .... my car is exactly how I would have ordered it from the factory if we could rewind the clock over 40 years ago.   It is a very personal and hobby related decision.     We are all enthusiasts, but nothing is cheap. e-body .... e for expensive.

All the best in your search for the perfect project or restored car for you!! .... CHAPS!

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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2011 - 09:12:39 PM »
Welcome to the site Paul! You will never find a better group of guys! There have been alot of new guys here lately.

As far as your car, like has been said take your time. Judging from your posts though it doesn't look like that will be too much of a problem for you. I got too excited with my car, and winded up buying one that had a lot more problems then I realized. Which is ok though, as I wanted something that would take a while. Key word is wanted lol. Now I just want to hurry up and get it where I can drive it! But I am enjoying it though.

The advice for saving some money to start you project is pretty important too. I didn't have any left over, mainly because it was weeks before the economy took its biggest hit and I took a 35% pay cut, but I had it for about 1 1/2 years before I got to start working on it. Another thing is I had basically no tools......so I am just now getting where I can do most of the things I need to.

I'm glad you came here Paul. This really is a great site. You will love this place.
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Re: Pro's and Cons of 1970 Challenger
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2011 - 02:01:36 PM »
My advice is buy the best car you can find , the better the condition & more complete it is the more $$ it will save you in the long run , I would try to avoid cars around the great lakes , they are always rusty , the cars out west are far better . A lot of the parts for 70 are 70 only , so this is why buying a complete car is important , most builds use later 71-74 parts as finding the 70 pieces is difficult & expensive .

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