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Offline mojavered

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Starting Troubles
« on: August 18, 2011 - 02:17:47 AM »
Put 440 back in car after cam swap, (cam has been degreed), Turned engine over by hand to bolt up flex plate.  So brought back up to TDC on # 1 cylinder, placed gear then dizzy back in with rotor pointing @ # 1.  Had coil disconnected and was laying on firewall, hooked battery up and coil went to ground 2 times until I remembered key was on.  Tried to start, but would not.  Double checked timing issues, nothing.  Did not have a new ballast or ECU, but think problem may be there?  Any thoughts or suggestions?  Thanks.
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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011 - 02:36:06 AM »
It's turning over but not firing?  It's firing and turning over but won't start?
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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011 - 09:12:59 AM »
You did turn the engine over twice so that it was back on TDC (or whatever it took to be on the compression stroke)?

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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011 - 09:58:53 AM »
 :iagree: the piston is at TDC twice once to fire & once at the top of exhaust stroke , you may be firing #6 instead  . I assume you have spark when cranking it

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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011 - 06:36:30 PM »
It is firing, turning over, but will not start. 
Yes, turned it over until we had TDC on # 1.
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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011 - 06:58:30 PM »
if it is on tdc, have you moved the distributor a bit in both directions to see if it would start?  As opposed to leaving it aimed at number one?

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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011 - 07:22:39 PM »
Yes, then I rotated the plug wires one way then the other to see if it made a diff.  Double checked firing order, started over on the basics.
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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011 - 07:26:51 PM »
Had a friend once put his new cam in upside down.....

You sure your getting fuel trough the carb?
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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011 - 08:04:34 PM »
Back to basics , Air , can you breathe ? Is there spark while cranking , is there fuel in the carb ?

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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011 - 11:41:58 PM »
Did not get to play with it today, but will tomorrow.  Will let you know how it turns out.
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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2011 - 10:25:19 PM »
Do you ever do something so dumb, you do not want anyone to know?  When I put the plug wires on, (new cap, rotor, and plug wires) I did not have the cap marked.  I had someone reading me the numbers that the wires go to, but I was going counter clockwise and they were going clockwise.  :bricks1: Switched them up and it fired right up.  :bigsmile: 
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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2011 - 11:25:57 PM »
Been there done that !!
 I was in a hurry , a customer was picking up his car in a few minutes & the wires kinda had a natural position on the cap so I plugged them in fast ,yup backwards  :smilielol:

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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2011 - 11:30:40 PM »
 :woo:             YUP
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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2011 - 10:35:38 AM »
The first time I ever replaced a distributor cap, 16 and knew very little about cars, I just pulled wires off and then put them back on the new cap. Order? Why would that matter?  :roflsmiley:


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Re: Starting Troubles
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2011 - 10:42:41 AM »
 :grinyes:  LOL...someone called me once to help them start a '55 Ford they were restoring.  I spent an hour before I started tracing wires.  Same problem, wired in the wrong order.  They were Chevy guys.