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I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« on: June 28, 2012 - 08:24:21 AM »
What is WRONG with people today?!?!

I've been TRYING to purchase a used Volvo S60 R to replace my old 2-door Dodge coupe.

The first one I found was roughed up, but the price was fair.  Still, I decided to keep looking for a better one.

I found a site called "Swedespeed.com" - a chat forum much like this one for Volvo's.  (The folks aren't nearly as knowledgeable or mature, but I've come to expect that from sites other than CC.C!)

The first classified ad I found was up in the Chicago area.  Guy had a bunch of go-fast mods on the car and was asking a bit much for the mileage, but I was considering it.  Then I found another topic on the same board where this guy had created a new account just to report a problem with his car and try to get information on how to fix it so that it WOULDN'T get linked to the car he was trying to sell.  He slipped and responded to his own topic with his "main" account and some folks commented on it.  When I found it, I was less than pleased.

Then I found one on Ebay.  Price was good, but the details and pictures were vague.  Plus it showed a salvage title on the carfax.  But I talked to the guy, seemed to know the car pretty well.  So I managed to get him to take it to a local Volvo dealership and I paid to have it inspected.  The service writer - very nice guy - called me and gave me a list of problems, including mis-matched paint, poorly repaired damage, water (only) in the engine cooling system, worn suspension components, and inoperable electronic systems.  It would have cost me $4,000 just to pass the PA Salvage Inspection.  "Thanks but no thanks."

Then I found another one on Swedespeed.  Price was higher than what I wanted to pay, but the car looked clean, lots of photos, and low miles.  So I offered the seller $13,000 - $1,000 less than he was asking.  He tried asking for more, but I said it was the best I could do (which is true.)  We stalled a bit, and then a few days later he offers me $12,600.  *shrug* Okay...  I call my bank, I get the check issued, I'm about to buy an airline ticket to Charlotte NC to pick up the car, when he emails me that the shop he's had it at just told him the AWD isn't working.  He then says that he'll fix it, but will have to sell the car for $14,500 - or I can still have it as-is for the $12,600.

I just wrote him back saying that my offer was for a WORKING car, not a broken one, and that if he wants to sell the car as-is, $10,500 is my best price.  I also told him that I won't pay for the car until it has been inspected by a certified Volvo mechanic, as the only way the AWD stops working in these cars is if you tear the splines off the output shaft of the transfer case, which can only be done by beating the sh!t out of the car.

In 2008 I spent less than a month shopping for Vipers.  I dealt with some anal folks - people who thought they were made of solid gold.  Some thought they were worth MORE than they paid for them...  But generally I dealt with honest people who admitted the problems their cars had.  Eventually I found a good deal from a reasonable seller and with the exception of some maintenance issues on the car, I've been pretty happy with my purchase.

I don't know WHAT has gotten into people today, but it is SO HARD to find an HONEST seller these days.  I can't BELIEVE the BS that I keep finding on the internet.  Not to mention the scam email I've received by people (or likely software) that scans sites and send bogus emails to people based on classified ads...  That Swedespeed forum is TERRIBLE for that kind of stuff.

My cats don't scam me for an extra meal, or try to haggle me on "petting time".  I've never seen birds try to swindle people for a piece of bread...  But humans - man.  Sometimes I think we're the worse species on the planet...

/rant.
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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012 - 11:25:28 AM »
Its the economy honey, people are desperate for every dime they can get. Ethics and morals are the first to go when it comes to feeding your family. We're a very niche market here on C-C, (almost) no one here are using these cars for soccer practice or commuting to work. The Volvo forum are 'everyday people' looking for everyday transportation. Different mindset I guess. Hope you find your car soon from a decent person.

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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012 - 12:01:09 PM »
 :iagree:
 People are desperate for every dime they can raise  so it will be difficult to find a good deal , a few years ago people were replacing cars before they needed to & were prosperous & it was more a a want than a need , things have changed !

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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012 - 12:10:54 PM »
The more money involved, the worse people get.  Millionaires and billionaires even worse!  They'd offshore, outsource all of America if they can make a buck out of it.

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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012 - 01:08:30 PM »
Well, I can agree with the difference in the "type" of vehicle.  This last guy though has at least a BMW 335 and a '50 Ford of some kind.  So if he's hurting for money, it's his own fault...

Does kinda confirm Chryco's comment on the character of a BMW owner though...  :)  (Yeah I know this doesn't apply to everyone.  Still, I have to laugh about it 'cause it keeps me sane...)
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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012 - 03:22:18 PM »
people are nuts lol

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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012 - 04:20:00 PM »
To quote my dad....."The world is going to hell in a hand basket"

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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012 - 04:25:08 PM »
I thought this post said "I'm starting to really despise Humidity..." 

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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012 - 04:42:27 PM »
Just look at the guy that posted here about him finding out he had purchased a stolen car. He could have kept his mouth shut, but instead was honest and took a 19K loss on the car. The (p.o.s.) owner didn't even pony up the $1000.00 dollar reward. There's still honest people in the world. Fortunately my parents raised me right. Good times or bad times, I couldn't live with myself knowing I had cheated you. Character is who you are when no one is looking. Jeff, I'm glad you got a good deal. Don't give up on humanity. Nothing new under the sun!!  :walkaway:

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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012 - 06:16:46 PM »
I thought this post said "I'm starting to really despise Humidity..."

 :roflsmiley:  I don't like humidity either!  :grinyes:

People I think inherently are good by nature but yes, the economy can change people but it doesn't mean they can scheister people out of money and be dishonest.  In my book, what it comes down to is greed and a turn in society.  In the Bible it says, "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils." which I really do think is true.  Family turns on family so think what the greed for money can do dealing with a complete stranger with whom you have no ties with.  And what is peopl's word now a days?  Before, a person's word was golden, now if you down have a signed, witnessed contract backed up with a lawyer you SOL in some cases... more and more it's becoming a "me" society, people don't give a rats azz who they poop on or step on to get ahead...some people that is, not all.  You guys are good in my book!  :thumbsup: 

Sorry, the cynic in my came out.  Stepping down from the soapbox...  :bigsmile: 
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Re: I'm starting to really despise Humanity...
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2012 - 06:36:30 PM »
The older I get, the more I agree with all the James Bond Villains...

By the way, Humans are probably the worst animal on this planet, but monkeys are jerks too.  LOL


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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2012 - 07:40:24 PM »
but monkeys are jerks too.  LOL



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