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Offline jwjetco

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440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« on: August 05, 2012 - 03:12:57 PM »
just wondering what would be a good combination to get or exceed 600 HP
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Re: 440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2012 - 03:22:03 PM »
600 Hp
 Gross as rated in 1970 ? compared to 375 hp stock
or RWhp measured at the ground ?
 totally different , I have dynoed numerous realtively mild combos making 600 + gross , but getting past 400 RWhp is tough

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Re: 440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2012 - 03:37:12 PM »
What are you starting with?  Are you willing to or have the cash to start from scratch?

I would build a 512 stroker with aluminum heads and a 850ish carb.

I can break it down to more specific parts if you tell me more about what you want.  Chryco Psycho can too.

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Re: 440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2012 - 07:20:35 PM »
I would use a minimum 950 - 1000 cfm carb

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Re: 440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2012 - 11:46:34 PM »
I would use a minimum 950 - 1000 cfm carb

Yeah, I don't know why I said that.  I have a six pack myself.  I guess what I meant was to not go smaller than 850.


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Re: 440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2012 - 04:37:20 AM »
With a 440 stock stroke wont you need to go with high comp pistons, high flow heads like -1, and a big solid roller cam to touch 600hp?

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Re: 440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2012 - 12:00:55 PM »
I  went over 700 gross hp with a roller cam , Victor heads & headers
 I hit 630 Gross with 915 heads & a solid flat tappet cam & headers , all in at 5300 RPM too

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Re: 440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2012 - 04:59:13 PM »

Blower and nitros on top of that.... :bigsmile:
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Re: 440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2012 - 01:48:11 AM »
600 from a stock displacement 440 is feasible. It will require really good aftermarket heads ( Victor Eddy's,  Indy), .6 to. 7 inch lift on a custom ground solid roller camshaft. Duration isn't too critical, keeping the valve train light is. Cutting down on rotating mass would really help. Polish and radius the crank counterweights. Use a longer con-rod (7.1 is a common length ). Custom pistons would be a must, the extra rod length will put your compression height in the 1.7 range. Compression Ratio would need to be 10 to 1. If you were to use the max-wedge size port Eddy's or Indy heads you could still run a dual plane ( Indy makes a the 2D manifold in a max-wedge size with flow numbers in the 360-70 cfm range with nothing more than a tickle of hand porting). This would help keep the the low end respectable. This makes me curious, I think I'll fire up my dynomation program and see how it turns out.

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Re: 440> can I get 600 HP???? Combinations?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2012 - 12:29:11 AM »
With a mild roller cam, ported dual plane Indy intake, and cnc ported Eddy RPM heads this is what i got, 613 hp @ 6000 rpm, 623 foot pounds @ 4500 rpm. Average HP is over 520 , average Torque was over 530. At 1000 rpm torque was 379 foot pounds, it was over 500 by 1600 rpm. The longer rod gains 4 hp at peak and 1 foot pound at peak. It seems to come from lower frictional loses due to piston stability in the bore. Oh, and these are not the max wedge size ports, but still pretty impressive. Soon as i get some more info on those heads I'll post the results.

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