yes these will go through the valance, with the tips i got from PG Classics. Didnt really want to make a mess of installation so if you do have some pics that would help me out some, I'm sure. I'll study it some more and modify what i have to to hang the pipes. Just another reason why i have torches, welders and a whole shop of tools, modify accordingly is what i say.
Also, do you have a rear sway bar, tails hit it and looks like i will need to cut some off the tip side to allow it to move back away from the sway bar. Looks like i have to cut between 2 and 3 inches which will allow me to move the tails back, in turn slides the mufflers back under the seat more and still may have enough to connect to the collectors. This is getting frustrating