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Initial engine fire up
« on: September 15, 2011 - 09:35:16 PM »
 This is the sequence I go through when firing a new engine for the first time
 The  Proceedure is pretty simple , I assume the engine was built with usually red Bearing guard oil , we coat all the bearing surfaces with it , as well as pushrod tips & rocker shafts & tips , also put some in the oil pump gears so it has good vacuum ?
 I never pre-oil the engine , I feel it is far more important to protect the cam than rotate the engine excessively , the brg guard will protect the surfaces until the oil arrives . I only rotate the engine enough to set the valves & generally install the intake AFTER setting the valves [if you have mechanical rockers] so I can recoat the cam lobes with lube .
1] Take your time & Check everything over carefully .
2] I remove the Power steering belt , if the steering has an problem you do not want to have to abort the cam break in ! I have had this happen .... not cool
 3] I set the engine to 20* Before TDC on #1 cylinder firing stroke  & line up the reluctor & pickup tabs so you will have close to 18* timing as soon as you crank it . If you unplug the connector to the dist with the key on you can confirm spark , you will get 1 spark everytime you unplug it .
 4] I use a spray paint cap & poke a small hole in the top ,then I flip it over ,fill it with fuel & allow the fuel to stream into the carb bowl vent tubes with the sight plugs out if holley style carb filling both front & rear / all bowls as even the secondaries have idle circuits , I then pump the accelerator pumps until fuel is visable squirting into the carb . Set the Idle mix screws @ 1.5 turns out from the bottom on most Holley type carbs , closer to 2-2.5 with Carter Eddy carbs .
5] Make sure all fluids are topped up , I always leave the rad cap off so you can add coolant as soon as the thermostat opens if needed but cap it as soon as it opens . I also put a pin hole in the thermostat when I nstall it to allow air to bleed trough .
6] Turn up the idle speed screw 4-5 turns so it should run in the 1800 rpm range immediatly
7] Have a hose handy to cool the rad if it starts to over heat just to spray the surface of the rad & increase the cooling efficiency , it will reach operating temp in approx 10 mins & needs to hold that temp for 10 more minimum .
8] pour 1/8 paint cap of fuel into the carb / intake
9] Hands clear ..... hit the key !     
You need 2 people 1 in the car watching gauges , the second working on the engine
Once it is running
It should fire immediatly
1] turn up the idle to 1800 -2000 rpm do not vary speed during the break in run
2] set float levels if externally adjustable , do this before installing the carb if they have to be set inside the carb , often the float levels are way off as a result of shipping / dropping the carb .
3] tweak timing advance until max RPM is reached without backfiring this will keep it cool as possible .
4] reset idle speed to maintain 1800-2000 rpm .
5] Adjust idle mixture screws , if your jetting is lean you can tell by having to open the mix screws out a little
Run engine for 20 minutes minimum all the time checking guages & monitoring engine speed .
 After 20 mins or more idle the engine down to desired speed , reset the idle mix screws .
 you should be good to go at least to the point where you can hook up the power steering & drive the car & start tuning the carb for best performance , if the idle screw need to be turned out your jetting is rich , if they need to be turned in you jetting is lean .
 Neil
« Last Edit: May 18, 2012 - 12:42:41 PM by Chryco Psycho »

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Re: Initial engine fire up
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011 - 09:39:52 PM »
Good info!  :2thumbs:
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Re: Initial engine fire up
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011 - 09:43:39 PM »
thanks for the information , i guess everyone has their own little secerets.
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Re: Initial engine fire up
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2011 - 10:06:52 PM »
5] Adjust idle mixture screws , if your jetting is lean you can tell by having to open the mix screws out a little
After 20 mins or more idle the engine down to desired speed , reset the idle mix screws .
if the idle screw need to be turned out your jetting is rich , if they need to be turned in you jetting is lean .
Good info; I always learn something new.
I'm confused about the idle mix screw results.  The first adjustment is at 1800+ rpm and makes good sense.   After the 20 minute break in is where I'm lost.  At idle, turning the screws out should mean the mixture is too lean just as in the 1800 rpm example, OR what am I missing??  Thanks.
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Re: Initial engine fire up
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011 - 07:50:48 PM »
the mixture screws at 1800 RPM are enhancing the jetting , so for example at 1800 RPM you turn out the mixture screws adding more fuel to make it run better then the jetting is too lean , when you idle down now you are adding too much fuel at idle so you turn in the mixture screws back in to lean out the mix as the jets are no longer involved in the total mix .
The reverse is true as well , If you are turning the screws in at 1800 rpm to improve the way it runs the jetting is rich & you have to turn the mixture screws out at Idle to make it run best again

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Re: Initial engine fire up
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012 - 06:57:02 PM »
Also have a fire extinguisher and / or towel handy in case of fire. :thumbsup:
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Re: Initial engine fire up
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2012 - 12:38:08 PM »
 Good point Leo
Generally you will get a lot of smoke in the fist 2 mins , there is usually oil on top of the pistons & around the rings , also coating the valves  , it will burn off as it heats up .

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