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Offline Chryco Psycho

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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2013 - 10:11:48 AM »
Yes & no , you can get a long way with tuning , air bleeds & holes in the throttle plates to close the plates at idle do help a lot but a carb is not very precise & you always have fuel dropping out of the air flow at idle due to low air speed & long runners to the cylinders . Almost all cars with carbs do this , performance cam make it worse which is why you get the cool sound at idle but the sound is misfiring cylinders pushing raw fuel into the exhaust . Efi is far more accurate at any engine speed & throttle position , I built a 68 RR with a 440 , Race solid roller .680 lift cam , Eddy Victor heads . I broke the engine in using a 950 HP series Holley carb & then fitted a custom built EFI system to it , while it would barely idle at 1200 rpm with the carb the EFI completely changed the beast , it woudl idle dead smooth @ 800 rpm , no cam lope at all , it sounded very smooth , virtually stock except for the incredable sound of 3" exhaust but there was no way to tell there was a race cam in it at all , it started like a new car just bump the key & it was running , every function was controllable all of the power valve / accerator pump / vacuum drop / jetting circuits could be dialled in . The fuel is always metered exactly in any situation , it is delivered right behind the intake valve & atomized far better than a carb can . I would put it on everything the only downside is the $4500  cost .
 Cats help too basically an afterburner to clean up any residue , I have not clue if cats would help on a carbed car there simply may be too much unburned fuel in the exhaust .... I do like the pic though  :2thumbs:

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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2013 - 11:20:54 AM »
About the best you can do with the average car is set the throttle blades correctly, drill a couple of small holes in them to bump up the idle speed rather than using the idle speed adjusting screw and moving the blades out of the correct position.  Then bump the initial timing up to about 16 degs to start the burn earlier.  I am sure you have noticed the idle smooth out as you turn the distributor for more initial timing.

The increased idle speed improves the retention of the fuel droplets in the air stream rather than allowing more to drop out at low speed which increases the raw gas coming out of the tail pipes.  The advanced idle timing allows more to be burned in the combustion chamber rather than burning as it enters the manifolds.

Cats need heat to "light off" and this means a leaner mix than we normally can easily obtain a decent idle from in a carbed car.  Otherwise, the richer mixture produces low egt's which don't get hot enough to work efficiently plus it clogs the mesh in the converter with carbon which reduces flow and efficiency and kills power.

Otherwise efi is the ultimate solution other than spraying down with Febreeze or running exhaust hoses outside when running the car inside


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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2013 - 04:33:16 PM »
My wife likes the smell.  Says it turns her on.  Reminds her of when we dated.   Of course we are not in the back seat anymore.  We have moved up in the world and have a bedroom now.  So I have to take her out for a ride now and then to put her in the mood.  Beats the hell out of spending a hundred bucks on dinner and then she has a headache.

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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2013 - 04:37:10 PM »
Beats the hell out of spending a hundred bucks on dinner and then she has a headache.


Yeah, but make it a short cruise, or it will cost you $100 in gas.   :lol:

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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2013 - 05:36:24 PM »
Yeah, but make it a short cruise, or it will cost you $100 in gas.   :lol:

It ALWAYS costs you. it's never free! :naughty:
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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2013 - 07:18:50 PM »
It ALWAYS costs you. it's never free! :naughty:

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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2013 - 10:25:03 PM »
I remember that I didn't used to believe that....then I got married  :faint:
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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2013 - 12:14:21 AM »
I tried that with another car and it didnt work out well.  Ended up with sluggish performance.   




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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2013 - 09:40:22 PM »
EFI
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Re: Eye burning exhaust
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2013 - 10:32:17 PM »
I need to do something too, with the cost of all the after market EFIs I keep thinking the late model hemi swap would be a better choice for not much more money?