horn button and lock disc removal?

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Re: horn button and lock disc removal?
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2005 - 01:48:39 AM »
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Re: horn button and lock disc removal?
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2005 - 10:31:10 AM »
My old one is ok but feels a little loose - did you have a new one?
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Re: horn button and lock disc removal?
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2005 - 10:58:21 AM »
your brg is probably fine , there is only 1 brg in the column so they all feel loose

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Re: horn button and lock disc removal?
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2005 - 12:14:34 PM »
ok, will prob leave as-is then. What's your thoughts on the ignition connector? Seems like a lot of folks have burnt connectors or resistance build up there. Good idea to replace the igniton switch and turn signal cam?

On another thread, one guy had recommended bypassing the plug and hard connecting the red and black leads? He also mentioned something about adding an alternator ground, checking the core support grounds and by-passing something with the ammeter guage leads that would reduce voltage passing thru the firewall.

I found the thread and quoted it below. This was a response by T-Quad to my problem where my steering column connector was getting hot. Let me know what you think I would like to know the best way to put this thing back in service.

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Grounding the alternator case is just insurance for a properly grounded electrical system to produce clean 12 volts dc.  At the battery be sure to check the grounds on the core support .  There should be at least one ground from the voltage regulator to the back of the engine. Thats a total of 3
Use braided type ground straps-nappa has them too.

 You have good chance for a meltdown.  A new switch is order ASAP.  When you install the switch you have to disassemble the steering column.  My best advice is to carefully remove the column from the car and do the job on the bench.  At the connector you have to do a bypass of the red and black leads [they are large wires] by but splicing using solder type butt spices [nappa store]. You also must carefull check the wires that feed thru the bulk head-thay may be old, brittle and discolored.   

As to the bypass:
From the output post of the alternator run a 14 gage wire to the post on the starter relay.  Use quality properly sized terminals on each end and run the wire along the existing harnesses-use a black wire as the factory did-this cuts the currrent passed thru the firewall it 1/2 of what it was. It minimizes any voltage drops in the system.
     
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Re: horn button and lock disc removal?
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2005 - 02:26:12 AM »
bypassing the alt guage does nothing more than remove the guage from the circuit , my feeling is if it is not broken don`t fix it ,all it does is connect the 2 ammeter leads together
the same amount of current is put through the circuit
 1 of the best upgrades is to use relays to switch the headlights , that reduces load at the headlight switch & through the firewall & makes the headlights brighter too
 cleaning & making sure the connectors are tight by lightly pinching the female connectors for the ign s& turn signal switches will insure it will work properly without the hassle of hard wiring & bypassing trhe plugs at the base of the column   

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Re: horn button and lock disc removal?
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2005 - 06:05:41 AM »
I understand. After re-reading his recommendation I see what he is saying. He isnt bypassing the ammeter; rather it is creating an additional 12V power source to the starter relay that would help reduce voltage drops during engine starts and reduces the current that would be passed thru the starter switch thru the column connector. that might help my connector heat issue.

The headlight relay idea is a good one - I will prob do that when I am running the underhood wiring.

After pulling the loom and looking at the bulkhead connectors and contacts, I wonder how anything worked on this car. They are pretty cruddy. I will need to clean the contacts before I go back together with it.     
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