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Offline Mtownsend010

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RESTO MOD PLANS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS
« on: January 05, 2014 - 06:28:07 PM »
My starting point is an old worn out 74 barracuda that someone dropped a 440 in use for drag racing. Plans are a frame off build. Iv been looking at this company and price wise does not seem to bad as they offer almost everything I'm looking for my question is has anyone used a similar set up? How's drive ability and track use? I want a good weekend cruiser as well as take it to the strip and make a few passes. I know I won't be able to dive I to corners like I want but the coilover has to be better then stock.

I'll be keeping the 440 and stroking to a 512 and maybe a efi setup down the road or a supercharger.

[http://www.schwartzperformance.com/mopar-e-body-cuda-challenger-chassis-full-frame/

The interior will be two racing seats going to try to keep a stock dash with updated gauges. Remove the back seats for weight.

I haven't seen to many barracuda or cuda resto mod builds any extra info is great/b]




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Re: RESTO MOD PLANS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014 - 10:00:14 PM »
I have never used a swartz frame so i cannot give any advice with that
 I also have no clue why anyone would think coils are better than leafs , coils offer not lateral resistance & require a panhard bar to keep the diff centered & 3 or 4 arms to locate the diff offering no weight saving over the leaf springs , the 4 control arms can make exhaust fitment harder not easier  , while a flat leaf spring is virtually impossible to deflect sideways & holds the diff in place lenght wise as well probably with similar or less weight as the leaf is doing the work of 5 control bars & 2 coli springs , the leaf also helps the car steer as weight shifts to the outside it flattens the leaf amking the front slightly longer aiding the cornering . My Duster was set up for street / strip & would lift the front wheels 2.5' on launch using leafs & ladderbars with floaters & still road far smoother than a friends Chevelle with coils .
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Re: RESTO MOD PLANS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014 - 10:04:36 PM »
I just did a "resto-mod" 1971 Cuda using Control Freak front and rear suspension kits.

The owner wanted coil overs on the rear because "they look cool" :dunno: :woohoo:
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Re: RESTO MOD PLANS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014 - 12:40:52 PM »
Leaf springs have improved alot over the past several years but are still old technology  .Coilovers however have several advantages over leafs . Coilovers can be adjusted easily for different conditions ,where leafs can't. The ride is better with coil than leafs for the same stiffness. When using a 4 link (like suggested in the above post) ,the pinion angle does not change like the leaf spring suspension, so the torque is more constant when being applied to rearend and the ground . The leaf spring normally gets in the way when you want to use wider wheels and tires ,where the lower control arm on the 4 link isnt as intrusive.  The leaf is heavier and increases the unsprung weight because it is carried with the axle ,where as the coilover is lighter and the control arms are not carried with the axle . The coilover leaves more space under the rear of the car for more exhaust options ect.ect. There are few types of 4 link coilover rear suspensions , The trianglated 4 link (like the RMS street lynx I have in my car) does not need a panhard bar because the upper control arms are mounted at a angle from the body to the rear housing .
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Re: RESTO MOD PLANS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2014 - 09:26:57 PM »
Hey there.... I'am building a 70 cuda and I have chassis #0004 from Schwartz...Still a work in progress so I can't say how it works but I can tell you that dale and a couple others at Schwartz that I have talked to are awesome.. I ordered mine without the rear end because i'am using airride and I wanted as low a stance as possible.. Plus I narrowed my housing up so I can run a 18x12 wheel with a 345 tire..The engine that i'am building is a 6.1 with a kenne bell supercharger  with a 800ish hp goal.. going to do a later model style interior with a dash from a 07 charger... I completed a couple of other cars for some guys and i'am getting back on the cuda ordering lots a pricey parts....Oh well That a custom build Huh...Bret

I have photos but I can't seem to post them because they are to big I"ll try and post soon

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Re: RESTO MOD PLANS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2014 - 02:52:10 PM »
I met Jeff Schwartz at SEMA and he was a great guy.  I have no experience with his products but they look really nice.  If you are looking at changing the entire suspension/frame out in order to upgrade to modern components I would also recommend you look at the Roadster Shops chassis.  I have no experience with their product either but met them at SEMA.  They do some incredible work.  The RS chassis even changes the rear end over to IRS.  Here are some links to their stuff:

http://roadstershop.com/chassis/1970-74-challengercuda/

http://roadstershop.com/galleries/larrys-cuda/

I would love to see whatever you end up building!
Dave