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Offline crash340

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oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« on: April 26, 2014 - 08:40:29 PM »
there are many relocation kits out on the market place, are there any to stay away from and are there any that come highly recomended?? I would like to us AN fittings and have side entry ports on the filter mount


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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2014 - 10:15:25 PM »
don't know anything about them, but I would be nervous starting engine unless I was sure all those lines
were already primed full with oil.
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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2014 - 10:48:26 PM »
I cannot remember the name of the company but something to do with transmissions makes a very cheap unit , you need to be sure the adapter will not restrict flow or come loose be careful what you buy

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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2014 - 12:11:51 AM »
There seems to be mostly screw on adaptors now days, I had one the bolted on as such using the centre adaptor, I guess the screw on adaptors, lime an oil filter screws on will work ok, you could do it up a little tighter than a filter and use some form of hose support to double as an anti rotation system, maybe some loctite or similar as well  :dunno:
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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2014 - 02:50:08 AM »
will get an oil pressure drop from your normal oil pressure.

you are in big doo-doo if lines crimp, or come loose.

what if you park for a few weeks, and oil drains from lines into oil pan?
when start up, or if cold, may not have oil pressure for some time at start-up.

at least use synthetic oil, it flows quicker at startup, and if lose oil pressure, as I once did,
may save your engine form seizing, as it did mine.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2014 - 06:30:46 AM by cudabob496 »
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2014 - 05:42:15 AM »
I cannot remember the name of the company but something to do with transmissions makes a very cheap unit , you need to be sure the adapter will not restrict flow or come loose be careful what you buy


http://www.tdperformance.com/Oil-Filter-Relocation-Systems  I have one sitting in the garage I never used from a past project (chevy)
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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2014 - 02:26:32 AM »
a good reason for the oil filter being under the engine, and not relocating it,
is if you blow out the filter o-ring gasket, or rupture an oil filter canister, you would not
want the oil filter near the top of the engine, while you spray
hot oil at 80 psi all over your intake and exhaust manifolds.
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1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2014 - 02:53:23 AM »
I ran a relocation kit on an A body for years without issue, was mounted high on the inner R/H fender, no pressure problems at start up ever, I plan to actually have the filter lower than where it mounts on the engine so it definelty wont drain, should a filter seal leak it wont be near headers or pipes, no mor thatn what the factory fit would be.

Basically, I'm lazy and dont want to have to a) get right under the car to screw off the filter, b) have to clean oil off the headers after a change.

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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2014 - 04:33:13 AM »
I ran a relocation kit on an A body for years without issue, was mounted high on the inner R/H fender, no pressure problems at start up ever, I plan to actually have the filter lower than where it mounts on the engine so it definelty wont drain, should a filter seal leak it wont be near headers or pipes, no mor thatn what the factory fit would be.

Basically, I'm lazy and dont want to have to a) get right under the car to screw off the filter, b) have to clean oil off the headers after a change.

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« Last Edit: April 30, 2014 - 06:28:16 AM by cudabob496 »
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2014 - 06:34:04 AM »
not a truer word said
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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2014 - 05:35:44 PM »
there are many relocation kits out on the market place, are there any to stay away from and are there any that come highly recomended?? I would like to us AN fittings and have side entry ports on the filter mount


Greg

Many race cars use them. Make sure fittings seat properly and you should have no problems. Ran one on a chevy
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Re: oil filter relocation kits for LA engine, good and bad
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2014 - 11:29:58 PM »
no doubt you could make it work, but we've all heard stories of oil filters rupturing, or leaking badly, and the
fire potential could be big time. Below, one of many stories:

"This morning, the Motorcraft FL820S filter ruptured at the seam on my wife's 2003 4.0LV6 Explorer. Looks to have happened at cold start, or at least before she drove off. She didn't notice it (sigh) and drove about a mile or two before all the oil pumped out and the engine started clattering away. She called me, and I of course told her to pull over and shut down RIGHT AWAY...


Went and looked at it, and there was oil all over the bottom of the car, coming from the OF area. I figured that the can popped at the seam (seen that happen with other cars before) or the gasket blew out. Had it towed home, removed the filter, cleaned things up, put on a replacement filter (bought at the same time as the burst unit, and with a similar code printed on the can), filled 'er up, and had a good look at the old filter.

The blown filter had the endcap all 'ballooned out' and the can pulled out of the seam about 1/3 of the way around. Sprayed oil all over the place, including on the PS exhaust manifold and exhaust hardware. Thank God it didn't catch fire. I became concerned that I had a problem in the engine causing excessive pressure (blocked passage, or failed pressure relief valve). Decided to run the engine in the driveway for a while to see if the endcap on the filter 'ballooned' like the last one."
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014 - 11:35:30 PM by cudabob496 »
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000