Clutch Z bar: Small Block vs. Big Block

[Topcat]

Are the Z bars different small block vs. Big block on e body?

[anlauto]

Nope

[Topcat]

I suspected that.

This was getting me confused.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=64928.0

the Z bar is unique to each application , with the wider big blocks the Z bar is shorter then a small block bar & the arms are at different angles depending on the application , I have often had to modify a bar to get the best results
 The Z bar has pivot balls & nylon bushings inside these can be bought as a kit from Mopar , they also have grease seals so the grease inside the Z bar stays clean , 1 ball threads into the belhousing , the other slots into the frame bracket 

[73EStroker]

  with Mike. Definitely different but not that they look different. My SB Zbar actually reaches my BB bellhousing without being too long, why? I don't know. But my pedal is trying to "push" the z bar top lever forward (not down) while still requiring more travel to properly release the clutch. The way I see it and figuring from my geometry days at school, I actually need to ditch the correct 15" rod from pedal to z bar and put about a 1" shorter unit in so that the angle is better for leverage without bottoming out that same rod over the bellcrank of the z bar. Hopefully this is not all confusing but I don't have pictures of the problem. The other issue with the SB bellcrank in a big block is that I have to use the angled actuator rod from the z bar to clutch fork. That's no problem though. My final attempt is to reconfigure this top rod and if no worky then hydraulic it is to be.

[Chlngrcrzy]

I read through, but i am still uncertain of the answer. I have a SB z-bar, but was getting ready to order the BB z-bar. When ordering, they definitely list both as being separate. If i can save $90 and use the SB z-bar i would like to.

[Topcat]

I spoke to Jaimie at Mega Parts.

He confirmed what I thought was true.

The small block Z bar on an E Body is the same for the Big block.

As long as you aren't doing the 11" bellhousing or aftermarket type being involved.

[anlauto]

Jamie is a great guy...

[Chlngrcrzy]

I spoke to Jaimie at Mega Parts.

He confirmed what I thought was true.

The small block Z bar on an E Body is the same for the Big block.

As long as you aren't doing the 11" bellhousing or aftermarket type being involved.

Awesome. That will save me a few skins by using my SB z-bar.   

[Topcat]

Awesome. That will save me a few skins by using my SB z-bar.   

Glad to help out a Seahawks fan?

[Chlngrcrzy]

Glad to help out a Seahawks fan?

OH HE__ NO!   I clearly am their only Washingtonian NINER man. I Bleed Red and Gold. I wore my Niner Tie to Church yesterday and thought i was going to get tarred and Feathered.

[Topcat]

OH HE__ NO!   I clearly am their only Washingtonian NINER man. I Bleed Red and Gold. I wore my Niner Tie to Church yesterday and thought i was going to get tarred and Feathered.

 

Glad to hear there are logical thinking people up there. 

[WildJones]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but what is meant by aftermarket type bellhousings? Better yet, can you tell me if this combo will work? I bought a big block z bar and a Lakewood bellhousing. Brewers claimsI would need to use a small block z bar and, small block clutch adjustment rod to use the Lakewood Bellhousing. 

[Topcat]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but what is meant by aftermarket type bellhousings? Better yet, can you tell me if this combo will work? I bought a big block z bar and a Lakewood bellhousing. Brewers claimsI would need to use a small block z bar and, small block clutch adjustment rod to use the Lakewood Bellhousing. 

Nobody replied back to you.

I think Jaimie at Mega Parts was referring to was the Lakewood housings when I spoke to him about Z bars and Bellhousings.

[javakm70cuda]

Has anyone used a Lakewood bell housing behind a bigBlock dodge. I have a 68 charger with 383 I need to complete. It has a Lakewood bell housing on it. I have a zbar & fork off of a 71 4speed bigblock I was going to put on it. It sounds like big block parts I have won't work.