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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2015 - 12:40:24 AM »
dash trim pieces and radio bezel I think are 70 specific

Didn't know that! Thanks a lot  :cheers:




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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2015 - 01:22:58 AM »
2 things come to mind and I believe were 70' only.

Dual torsion rods for the trunk lid.
The orange shock tower seals were unique 1 year only. 
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2015 - 02:17:28 AM »
All good additions to this thread. Thanks everyone.
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2015 - 10:42:02 AM »
2 things come to mind and I believe were 70' only.

Dual torsion rods for the trunk lid.
The orange shock tower seals were unique 1 year only.

If your gonna talk about the trunk you've got to include the fact 70 was the only year the shock access holes were on top of the sheet metal not on the rear facing area....
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2015 - 03:27:47 PM »
My 71 Cuda has the orange plugs and the shock access holes on the top not facing rear??? Don't have the fender tag or build sheet maybe mines an early production car???
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2015 - 09:28:02 PM »
My 71 Cuda has the orange plugs and the shock access holes on the top not facing rear??? Don't have the fender tag or build sheet maybe mines an early production car???

May be a possibility?

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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2015 - 10:00:54 PM »
They all had orange plugs, but the 70 had a metal retainer in the plug. I've seen plenty of 71's with them on top as well.
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2015 - 01:55:30 AM »
So here is what I've learned about fenders. If you are doing a concourse/rotisserie restoration, or have the money, just buy a good set of 71 fenders. You'll save yourself time and hassle. Im poor and am not doing a high dollar resto, so I opted to modify my 70 fenders. Here is what you need to buy.








It's all pretty straight forward, I just highly recommend that you do all of this and test fit your grill before sending the car off to paint (I wish I had). I had my grill in and out at least four times before I had it all lined up correctly. Note that there is about a 1" lip that hangs down where the header panel and fenders meet. You will need to grind this out. This is where it was before I removed it.



Unfortunately for me, I did not know I needed the backing plates for the headlight bucket brackets until after my car was painted and almost completely assembled. Instead of trying to drill, grind, and then weld in the new pieces, I found you can get it all to fit with a little bit of massaging from the grinding wheel and drill. I do not recommend this option, please plan better than I did. Here is what I had to do to make it fit. I've circled the holes I cut and drilled. Once you've done this the headlight can mounting brackets will sit just far enough back that everything works. Just note that you need to have your headlight wiring harness pulled into the proper locations before installing the grill. You cannot do it after as there just isn't room to squeeze the headlight plugs between the fender and the mounting bracket.





And this is what it looks like after installed.










One last thing I'll mention is that I'm very impressed with the metro reproduction grill assembly. Not only does it all fit together very well, but it seems quite durable. For as many times as I've had to install it and remove it I have yet to have any worries about it breaking or the paint adhering to the plastic. Great product.

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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2015 - 06:52:30 AM »
Are you going to paint the silver areas on the grill ?
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2015 - 09:30:54 AM »
Are you going to paint the silver areas on the grill ?

Is it supposed to be full color, grey on the inserts or silver trim like he has it now?  Is it also dependent on the bumper (chrome or color)?

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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2015 - 11:21:33 AM »
Are you going to paint the silver areas on the grill ?

I bought the paint for it, but I have been going back and forth on if I really want to do it. I know it should be silver, but I really like the way it looks right now. The grill has to come out one more time so I can adjust the passenger side headlights, so I'll need to make up my mind once I do that.
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2015 - 12:02:52 PM »
Is it supposed to be full color, grey on the inserts or silver trim like he has it now?  Is it also dependent on the bumper (chrome or color)?

Needs to be silver regardless of grill colour... :2cents:
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2015 - 09:28:32 PM »
Needs to be silver regardless of grill colour... :2cents:

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But I guess it's each their own.
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2015 - 09:35:35 PM »
I'm not saying he can't leave it orange, I'm just saying it was silver from the factory on all colours.... :2cents:
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Re: The Definitive 70 to 71 Cuda Conversion Thread
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2015 - 10:14:51 PM »
Actually some of the early production 1971 cars had the 70 style trunk pans.

If your gonna talk about the trunk you've got to include the fact 70 was the only year the shock access holes were on top of the sheet metal not on the rear facing area....