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Offline dave73chally

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Stock 440 Rocker Arms on Aluminum Heads?
« on: April 20, 2015 - 08:29:04 AM »
Was reading an article on hotrod.com and they built a 500+hp 440 using eddy aluminum heads and stock rocker arms. Is this common and/or recommended? I've been sold on buying PRW or Comp steel rockers for my 512 build but this is intriguing as I have a set of stock 440 rocker arms sitting in my garage.

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/1412-how-you-can-build-a-stout-537hp-street-440/

There reasoning for using them was this "The factory Mopar valvetrain is a shaft-mounted non-adjustable stamped-steel arrangement. Although it seems inadequate, the rockers are very light and have good high rpm capabilities."

What do you think?
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Re: Stock 440 Rocker Arms on Aluminum Heads?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2015 - 09:23:16 AM »
Long as they don't have a lot of miles on them and you take the time to measure the correct pushrod length and order them, they should work fine.

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Re: Stock 440 Rocker Arms on Aluminum Heads?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2015 - 09:56:35 AM »
FWIW, i'm running a lunati hydraulic roller cam, model #60312
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Re: Stock 440 Rocker Arms on Aluminum Heads?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2015 - 04:29:56 PM »
I see no problem with this assuming a few things , if the tips are worn they may travel father than before & I have had them make a clicking noise as they go past the limit of previous travel / wear point .
 Spring pressure is much higher with Lunati Fast ramp cams so the rockers may fail just from load but they will last for a while .
 Pushrod length is critical has to be 100% correct & the valve tips have to be dead even or you will need a different pushrod for each rocker so that each lifter is preloaded correctly as there is no adjustment possible .

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Re: Stock 440 Rocker Arms on Aluminum Heads?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2015 - 10:05:48 AM »
When you say they will last for awhile, how long are you estimating? If it will be a scenario where it's a ticking time bomb, I will just spend the money now and buy better rockers to play it safe.
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Re: Stock 440 Rocker Arms on Aluminum Heads?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2015 - 12:26:23 PM »
How long is a piece of string ?
 It would depend on the quality of any individual rocker , rpm seen , , they could last years or minutes

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Re: Stock 440 Rocker Arms on Aluminum Heads?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2015 - 12:27:43 PM »
In other words, if they have 50,000 miles on them, your piece of string is pretty short

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Re: Stock 440 Rocker Arms on Aluminum Heads?
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015 - 01:18:01 PM »
Gotcha. I have no knowledge of how many miles or how these were used in the past so I'll most likely go with a new set of PRW's.
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