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Offline hato

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the age old questions about headers
« on: June 03, 2015 - 07:09:11 AM »
so after last rounds of maintenance on the car i decided the rusted hp manifolds are fugly to look at  i got basic stock rebuild on the 440 so my choices are
1. i clean the manifolds and send em out to jet hot for coating
2.  i plunk down the cash for a set of tti headers thinking just 1/78  the 2 inch is way to much and i doubt id add more then just the headers and x pipe exhaust to the car
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2015 - 07:24:37 AM »
My vote: #1 Manifolds :thumbsup:
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2015 - 08:39:15 AM »
How original is the rest of your car? Are you an original type of guy or a horsepwer type of guy? Any engine mods planned for down the road?
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2015 - 02:24:57 PM »
its pretty stock except for some incorrect things and the wheels  am prolly gonna do the manifold route and send em out this week to jet hot i seen they color coat

here a picture from mopar night cruise in 2 weeks ago before the coward pedal went out on the way home
http://www.frankfortcarclub.org/images/cRUISE%20NT%20052115/2015%2005%2021_DCS_0050.jpg
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2015 - 04:05:54 PM »
Nice  :thumbsup: Can you post a pic of your hood insulation pad please?. I got a new one this past winter but it's different and I don't like it. Where did you get that one?
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2015 - 04:21:16 PM »
here a picture from mopar night cruise in 2 weeks ago before the coward pedal went out on the way home

"coward pedal" :clueless: That's a new one on me ...
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2015 - 04:38:43 PM »
"coward pedal" :clueless: That's a new one on me ...
aka the brakes said stopping is over rated drivers are smart they know yellow means caution so they can just get out of our way the car told me.
@blown_motor  am not sure it was on the car when i got it but i think its in the pile of receipts i got where he bought it from i will look though them today for you.
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2015 - 05:37:54 PM »
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2015 - 05:40:23 PM »
Another vote for the manifolds!

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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2015 - 05:41:52 PM »
My vote: #1 Manifolds :thumbsup:

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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2015 - 09:30:33 PM »
Manifolds... And while I won't tell of any reason not to Jet Hot the manifolds I will tell you that some of the gray manifold paints work amazingly well & are cheap... Especially compared to Jet Hot coating...
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2015 - 10:28:27 PM »
Well I am not all gung ho going to them am still checking out all my options am still confused on color paint as some cars I seen are silver others painted engine color I know Eastwood makes. A decent paint and that's like behind my house so might give that once I get em off an cleaned up
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Re: the age old questions about headers
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2015 - 01:06:48 PM »
Ive been a hot rodder, shade tree and restorer since '75.   Sticking to the subject of headers, for flow anyways, that the way to would go, period .  The only exception would be maybe the 426 hemi manifolds, the older chevy 396/427/454 manifolds, which flow pretty good as is.   I would slurry them anyways to get rid of some of the rough edges

Anyways, yes, I would go headers.  Frankly, again, IMHO, I dont go $$$$ on headers.  To me, TTIs are not worth the cost.   I have went with Cermaic patriots (on my chevy converted Toyota FJ 45, and I have headman coateds on my 440, 71 Cuda).   Ive used hookers on many Chevies as well.

If anyone can prove that flow form a 4300 set of coated headers are any worse than a set of 700-800 headers, i'd like to see the proof.

But then there is the issue of fitment:  Lotsa folks say they have fitment issues on e bodies with hedmans, patriots,  hookers.  I have never run into a fitment issue on my 70 340 cuda, 440 71 Cuda and 69 RR.  They are a little difficult to install, but you can over come it by:

1. Remove both engine mount bolts and steering crossover thingy
2. Remove starter
3. Remove all radiator shroud bolts.  Do not remove shroud, just hang it on the backside of the fan
4.  Raise front of engine with a lift from below as far as it will go  (Watch back of air cleaner base on shakers/ram airs.   Remove base in these cases)
5.  Install passenger side
6.  Finagle drivers side in while installing the starter

Again, I have no final clearance issues, but sparkplug boot clearance is always a prob, typically on #4,#6,#5.  I use boot protectors on those

Id go headers, def ceramic coated