Author Topic: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.  (Read 6285 times)

Offline cudaClive

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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2015 - 01:23:48 PM »
Thanks for all the help everyone. I will hold off on making any changes, as I'm waiting for my TTi headers to arrive. I will make some changes at that time.
Would changing back to the stock pitman/idler arm be the best fix, as I have the quick ratio?




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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2015 - 01:58:54 PM »
It's not your fast ratio pitman/idler... It is your QA1 lower control arms not having the travel limit stops...  Learn how far you can turn without rubbing & don't go any further....  Or fabricate stops that can be bolted to the LCA..
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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2015 - 02:31:41 PM »
Or add spacers on the wheels.   :dunno:

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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2015 - 03:23:17 PM »
Or add spacers on the wheels.   :dunno:

Problem with that method is his wheel offset is fairly normal so by moving the wheel out it could rub on the outer fender which is worse than the frame rail...
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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2015 - 03:46:50 PM »
Problem with that method is his wheel offset is fairly normal so by moving the wheel out it could rub on the outer fender which is worse than the frame rail...

Very true.  :2thumbs:

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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2015 - 06:30:40 AM »
Mine has the same problem.  It's a 72 cuda with 15x7 rally wheels.  I thought maybe my man. steering box was beat?  I'm going to look at it closer when I get further with the body work.

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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2015 - 08:59:38 AM »
It's not your fast ratio pitman/idler... It is your QA1 lower control arms not having the travel limit stops...  Learn how far you can turn without rubbing & don't go any further....  Or fabricate stops that can be bolted to the LCA..

 :iagree:  It's in the design ( or lack there of ) of the QA1 lower arms .
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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2015 - 04:43:08 PM »
I will get my headers in first, then work on this problem. Right now I have a great turning radius, so maybe a I just need to get used to not turning the wheel all the way.
I did try some spacers, but it still rubbed. I would have to get longer studs to space it out more.

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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2015 - 02:23:37 PM »
Just found this on the QA1 website:

Part #52308 (lower control arm) is only recommended for 1962-70 B-Body applications with no sway bar or E-Body sway bar and QA1 K-Member #52315.
Part #52308 (lower control arm) is designed to work with the E-Body sway bar and the 1971-72 B-Body sway bar.

Looks like the QA1's E-body lower control arms only works with QA1's K-Member. What is the difference between the stock K-Member and QA1's K-Member? Anyone?

This is just  ridiculous!

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Re: 15x7 Rallye wheels with tires rub on frame.
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2015 - 03:19:37 PM »
Just found this on the QA1 website:

Part #52308 (lower control arm) is only recommended for 1962-70 B-Body applications with no sway bar or E-Body sway bar and QA1 K-Member #52315.
Part #52308 (lower control arm) is designed to work with the E-Body sway bar and the 1971-72 B-Body sway bar.

Looks like the QA1's E-body lower control arms only works with QA1's K-Member. What is the difference between the stock K-Member and QA1's K-Member? Anyone?

This is just  ridiculous!


No I'd say they work with a stock k-frame the difference is with or without sway bar tabs. And A-Body have different sway bar mounting tab location through out the years. 
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"Lower Control Arms
QA1 offers Mopar A, B and E-Body control arms with sway bar tabs. These lower control arms are a direct bolt-in on your factory k-member and are twice as strong as factory arms and don't add any weight. The set includes bushings, pivot arms and nuts for ease of installation.

Note: Part #52301 is designed to work on only factory cars and any A-Body that was swapped to disc brakes with factory parts (large ball joint).
Part #52307 is designed to work with the 1964-66 A-Body with no sway bar and the 1967-73 A-Body with the 1973-76 sway bar or "flat bar."
Part #52308 is only recommended for 1962-70 B-Body applications with no sway bar or E-Body sway bar and QA1 K-Member #52315.
Part #52308 is designed to work with the E-Body sway bar and the 1971-72 B-Body sway bar."

Your rubbing issue comes from the lack of  stop tabs.
Brad
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