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Offline sassygreen

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wanted 426 hemi
« on: March 21, 2016 - 10:02:26 PM »
Is it possible to buy a new 2nd generation  hemi?  Thanks for your help.




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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2016 - 12:52:16 AM »
Absolutely, many available from Mopar, Mancini, Indy, etc. Google in your friend. The new versions use motor mounts like a 440, not like the originals however, but I don't see that as a bad thing, much easier to install.
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
Past Mopars
9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)

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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2016 - 11:51:40 PM »
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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2016 - 01:32:42 AM »
Absolutely, many available from Mopar, Mancini, Indy, etc. Google in your friend. The new versions use motor mounts like a 440, not like the originals however, but I don't see that as a bad thing, much easier to install.

aren't the block angles different?
I can't imagine those modifications will work with a shaker.
Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2016 - 11:36:30 AM »
I cannot say with any certainty but I am sure there are a number of new 426 Hemi's with shakers on them in the world. Other than the motor mounts, I do not believe there any other significant difference between a newly made engine and the originals. I know the intakes are the same and the valve covers.
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
Past Mopars
9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)

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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2016 - 09:42:41 PM »
Thanks for the replies. Now I have to decide if it will be worth the money? When I built my barracuda I spent 32,000 on it. That money was spread out over a year and a half, so it didn't hurt so much. 15 to 20,000 just for the engine. That is a lot of money.

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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2016 - 10:28:30 PM »
I cannot say with any certainty but I am sure there are a number of new 426 Hemi's with shakers on them in the world. Other than the motor mounts, I do not believe there any other significant difference between a newly made engine and the originals. I know the intakes are the same and the valve covers.

440's and 426 hemi blocks are entirely different concepts in mounting technique.

440's have webbed feet that come off the side of the block
426 Hemi's are bolt holes on each side and brackets mount on. It's a 6 part system to the K member.

Try using Schumacher mounts as shortcut to save money then cry afterwards for attempting it to work with a Shaker Bubble.

Newly made blocks are Siamese bore which are claimed to be stronger. OEM blocks will work just fine for street & Strip. Reproduction Valve covers are O.K. The oil filler cap is clocked wrong so the ears are 45 degrees instead of horizontal like OEM.

Many have said before that they had to have the whole block gone thru by their local machine shop because the tolerances weren't very good on crate Hemi's. Don't assume that these are a plug and play, drop in...get it checked first!

Intakes on Hemi's offer different carb bolt patterns.
Small early OEM Carter bore or the Marine open square bore for later Carter's.

It is without a doubt very easy to get into $30,000 for a well built stroked Shaker Hemi set up.   :2cents:

Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2016 - 12:21:44 AM »
440's and 426 hemi blocks are entirely different concepts in mounting technique.

440's have webbed feet that come off the side of the block
426 Hemi's are bolt holes on each side and brackets mount on. It's a 6 part system to the K member.

Try using Schumacher mounts as shortcut to save money then cry afterwards for attempting it to work with a Shaker Bubble.

Newly made blocks are Siamese bore which are claimed to be stronger. OEM blocks will work just fine for street & Strip. Reproduction Valve covers are O.K. The oil filler cap is clocked wrong so the ears are 45 degrees instead of horizontal like OEM.

I believe that the new 426 hemi recreations use the same mounting ears as a 440 (RB engine).

Many have said before that they had to have the whole block gone thru by their local machine shop because the tolerances weren't very good on crate Hemi's. Don't assume that these are a plug and play, drop in...get it checked first!

Intakes on Hemi's offer different carb bolt patterns.
Small early OEM Carter bore or the Marine open square bore for later Carter's.

It is without a doubt very easy to get into $30,000 for a well built stroked Shaker Hemi set up.   :2cents:
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
Past Mopars
9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)

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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2016 - 09:10:10 PM »
So long story short, I have to ask about motor mounts and engine warranty. I have a shaker set up with a modified base plate to fit high rise and holley.     http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa457/blk08vert/cuda/010480x640_zpsc340e457.jpg 
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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2016 - 10:24:47 PM »
So long story short, I have to ask about motor mounts and engine warranty. I have a shaker set up with a modified base plate to fit high rise and holley.     http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa457/blk08vert/cuda/010480x640_zpsc340e457.jpg


It doesn't really make common sense for them to first cast the Hemi blocks with the original mounting provisions then now offer a new mounting style.

Looking at Bill Mitchell Website, (BME) they look OE provisioins.
http://www.theengineshop.com/products/engine-blocks/font-sizeinch2inchhemi-blocks-font/mopar-peformance-chrysler-iron-hemi-block.html

Add to that: How many casting foundries are there making Hemi blocks? 1? or 2? Probably only 1.
I last recalled the blocks were being cast in Mexico by World Products.
Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: wanted 426 hemi
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2016 - 02:46:45 AM »
I think we both are right, this is from ALLPAR

Mopar Performance also made a version with B/RB engine mounts, so a Hemi could be dropped into a big block car without a Hemi K-member.

Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
Past Mopars
9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)