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Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« on: June 11, 2016 - 11:03:52 AM »
Good morning Gentlemen!

I'm running a Quick Fuel carb on a newly built 512 stroker.  My idle has been set way too high since I got the car and motor put back together.  I've been driving the car like this (maybe 60 miles).  Well I finally got around to tinkering on it, trying to lower the idle.  I quickly realized my idle screw wasn't what was causing my high idle.  My throttle cable is apparently too short for my setup.  Removing the linkage fixed the idle.  Unfortunately no I have two problems.  While trying to get everything straight I seem to have knocked something else out of adjustment.  The front float seems to be stuck and motor won't run. 

I'm considering drilling another hole in the throttle linkage to make up for the length of the throttle cable, anybody see any issue with this or other suggestions?

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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2016 - 04:30:46 PM »
loosen clamp holding throttle cable. This should give enough slack to install cable properly then tighten clamp back up.

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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2016 - 01:25:43 PM »
often with a high rise intake the cable will not reach  drilling a different hole will be fine .
 Obviously you picked up some dirt in the needle / seat assy  just unthread it clean it out & r-install with the float level reset .

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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2016 - 11:59:44 AM »
loosen clamp holding throttle cable. This should give enough slack to install cable properly then tighten clamp back up.


Unfortunately loosening the clamp doesn't allow for any slack.

I drilled the linkage to allow the cable to connect properly and now I've run into another issue.  I don't enough movement in my throttle cable to allow for full articulation on the carb. Excuse the horrible pics below but the first shows the linkage with the pedal to the floor, its sitting ~ 12 o'clock.  However, when I manually operate the linkage WOT is much further back closer to 2 o'clock.  Any input?

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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2016 - 01:05:38 PM »

Seems that with that intake you need a medium riser setup which could would allow you to bring it forward and at the right height.

Right now your setup is too low.

See here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Big-Block-High-Rise-Intake-Manifold-Throttle-Cable-Bracket-Mounting-Kit-/322140797393?hash=item4b011679d1:g:dXEAAMXQfvlSmVSo&vxp=mtr
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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2016 - 03:53:52 PM »
Seems that with that intake you need a medium riser setup which could would allow you to bring it forward and at the right height.

Right now your setup is too low.

See here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Big-Block-High-Rise-Intake-Manifold-Throttle-Cable-Bracket-Mounting-Kit-/322140797393?hash=item4b011679d1:g:dXEAAMXQfvlSmVSo&vxp=mtr



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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2016 - 09:03:46 PM »
not only that but look down the carb to see the position of the throttle blades. make sure you are not going over center.
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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2016 - 01:02:45 AM »
The pull point on the lever is not close enough to the throttle shaft , as you go closer to the shaft it will take less travel to fully open the carb

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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2016 - 01:44:39 AM »

From time to time this happens...

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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2016 - 07:31:18 PM »
Alright guys I got the high-rise bracket ordered, now on to the next issue.  I'm having a HELL of a time tuning this thing.  I got the car running but its incredibly rich!  The front float is adjusted however I'm having trouble with the rear.  The bowl is completely empty at idle.  I am able to bring the fuel up to the right level with the car off however I have to thread the screw all the way in.  When I turn the car back on the bowl goes back to empty.  Next issue, the idle mixture screws.  QuickFuel says to bottom out all four screws, back out 1-1/4 turns, turn car on and start backing out any until RPM increases.  My problem is that I get no change at all up or down when adjusting these screws.

I'm completely LOST!

Please help.....anyone in Houston area interested in lending a hand in return for beer and grub??

Thanks guys!

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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2016 - 09:27:43 PM »
Pete,
 What model is this QF carb?
 I run the SS-750-AN. I have tuned this carb over the last five years with dual O2 sensors and I can't imagine how rich it would be if the four corners were adjusted to 1-1/4 turns out each!!!!!! It is a QF carb and not a Holley! The QF tech told me to try and keep the Four Corners Screws between 1/2 and 1 turn out each.

 The floats should be about 1/3 up the sight glasses and no more than the half way line. This is a QF carb and not a Holley!
 Is the carb setup to the specs that was sent with the carb?
 If I was you (I did this too when my carb was brand new from QF), I would remove the carb, drain it, and take it apart and wright down all of the jets, PV size, and air bleed sizes and take pictures as you remove each part. The pictures are great references later. You should also remove the needle assemblies and clean them out. You might have some crud in the one and blow them out with carb cleaner.  Use carb cleaner in all of the holes that you find. When you put the PV back in, torque it to 100 INCH/lbs so you know it will not leak. Then flip the carb upside down and adjust the throttle blades to show a square hole on both of the throttle blades and the idle circuit slots.

 Once you KNOW what you have, then bolt it back on the intake and set all four metering screws to 3/4 turn out and start it up. Set the float levels to 1/3 to 1/2 up the sight glasses. Then wait for the engine to warm up to the normal running temp. This should get you closer to a decent idle.
 
 Note:
 It is very hard to tune a carb without some type of feedback from an O2 sensor.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2016 - 09:33:34 PM by YO7_A66 »

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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2016 - 10:34:34 PM »
Pete,
 What model is this QF carb?
 I run the SS-750-AN. I have tuned this carb over the last five years with dual O2 sensors and I can't imagine how rich it would be if the four corners were adjusted to 1-1/4 turns out each!!!!!! It is a QF carb and not a Holley! The QF tech told me to try and keep the Four Corners Screws between 1/2 and 1 turn out each.

 The floats should be about 1/3 up the sight glasses and no more than the half way line. This is a QF carb and not a Holley!
 Is the carb setup to the specs that was sent with the carb?
 If I was you (I did this too when my carb was brand new from QF), I would remove the carb, drain it, and take it apart and wright down all of the jets, PV size, and air bleed sizes and take pictures as you remove each part. The pictures are great references later. You should also remove the needle assemblies and clean them out. You might have some crud in the one and blow them out with carb cleaner.  Use carb cleaner in all of the holes that you find. When you put the PV back in, torque it to 100 INCH/lbs so you know it will not leak. Then flip the carb upside down and adjust the throttle blades to show a square hole on both of the throttle blades and the idle circuit slots.

 Once you KNOW what you have, then bolt it back on the intake and set all four metering screws to 3/4 turn out and start it up. Set the float levels to 1/3 to 1/2 up the sight glasses. Then wait for the engine to warm up to the normal running temp. This should get you closer to a decent idle.
 
 Note:
 It is very hard to tune a carb without some type of feedback from an O2 sensor.


I BELIEVE just based off appearance its an HR-750.  I based my tuning tips off QuickFuels website (http://www.quickfueltechnology.com/tech-info/carburetors/carb-class/carb-class-5-basic-carb-tuning-tips).  Sight glass 1/2 full and corners starting point at 1-1/4 turns from bottom.

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Re: Quick Fuel Carb Adjustment
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2016 - 06:48:20 AM »
 I think that the starting point of 1-1/4 out is a safe RICH start that they tell people. 1-1/4 turns out times four metering screws is a lot of fuel!

 Remember to do all of your carb tuning when the engine is up to full running temp. Try the 3/4 turns out each and see if that helps out. If your vacuum is stronger at 3/4 turns out than it was at 1-1/4 turns out, then keep turning the metering screws inward until you find your highest vacuum reading at the rpm of your choice. Try and keep them all the same.

 Note: I like to run them all inward until they lightly bottom out, then take a "sharpie" marker and make a mark at the 12:00 position. Then I turn them all out to where I want them. The "sharpie" makes a nice visual so you know where they are all located at a quick glance.