Author Topic: REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods  (Read 1467 times)

Offline Blown70

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REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods
« on: January 20, 2006 - 09:34:18 AM »
I would like to know what the opinion is of these GOODMARK(?) parts.

How was the fitment of them and overall satisfaction?  Anything specific I need to watch out for? :popcorn:

Thanks for your time.

Tom




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Re: REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2006 - 09:54:02 AM »
From what I have read and found out from mopar dealerships is that the new full quarters and fenders and such that have a "Authentic Mopar Restoration Parts" logo are parts that have been made from original tooling that Chrysler has sold to that company or are made from original specs with new tooling, and these parts should even have the original part numbers on them. So they should be perfect. Chrysler understands the demand for original parts and instead of spending the money to make the parts themselves, what they are offering is to any part manufacturer the chance to use all of the specs and part numbers on the parts they manufacture and in turn Chrysler will make a catalog with all of the parts in it for a small royalty. This has been in the works for a couple of years now, and some of these parts have made it into the current Mopar Performance catalog as you have probalby noticed. Along with what is in the catalog I know that Goodmark signed on with the body panels and some other parts like the grille for a 69 road runner, and another company is making the rear spoilers for 70 and 71 all to original spec. It's about time quality restoration parts are available for our cars.
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Re: REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2006 - 10:27:40 AM »
The quarters and new coming fenders should fit as good as NOS. See Resto Rick's website forum for intersting commentary on NOS panels.

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Re: REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2006 - 10:39:32 AM »
The quarters and new coming fenders should fit as good as NOS. See Resto Rick's website forum for intersting commentary on NOS panels.

Ok, resto rick ???,  I usually do a lot of my own..... Do you have a link? :1zhelp:

THANKS FOR THE INPUT! :cheers:

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Re: REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2006 - 02:50:07 PM »
The local Goodmark distributor here also made a comment to me about the new Challenger quarters that are supposed to be as good as NOS.  He said the metal is noticably thicker gauge (NOS size) and that you could hold them up in the air by one end and they wouldn't flex at all.

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Re: REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2006 - 03:16:52 PM »
Hey Blown,

Resto Rick has a neat website with some good information. I wasn't suggesting that you have him do any work...

He has some information posted about NOS quarters....here's the story, paraphrased and in brief:

Rick talked with a retired worker from a Ford factory. They used a grading system for all quarters being stamped on the line. Think of it as A, B, C, D, F etc. The best quarters were assigned to Black cars, the not so good quarters were assigned to White cars, and the WORST quarters were assigned as replacement parts....i.e. NOS.

My point was that the new Goodmark stuff is probably based on NOS quarters, with maybe some improvements; hence, the new stuff is probaby as good as NOS quarters, which were the worst of the lot.

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Re: REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2006 - 09:18:03 AM »
 I was wondering also about the fit of the repo'd trunk lid.Anyone put one on? Are you talking about the fit or the amount of work to get them straight for paint? thanks for any help
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Re: REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2006 - 11:00:31 AM »
During the manufacturing process, the dies used to stamp sheetmetal will get worn. this is especially problematic when you have a body panel with crisp, hard lines and edges. So, the problem is tha the lines may be "soft" or not straight. Many guys have reported that some of the reproduction pieces, like the quarter skins for the Challengers, are not suitable for use. Instead, they cut the quarter skins above and below the belt line and use only what they need. The Goodmark pieces should not have the problem. I think that ANY panel you get is going to need massaging to make fit properly. This is not necessarily the fault  of the panel, but is due to the fact that the car is 30+ years old and these cars weren't put together well to begin with. The margins and seams on these cars were screwy to begin with. Bottom line is that if you NEED a new quarter, go with the Goodmark units as intact quarters off of a salvage car is impossible to find and NOS pieces are overpriced and no better than the Goodmark pieces. If you can salvage what you have with patch panels, you can probably get as good a result without as much work (if you are paying someone to do this, just get the Goodmark piece). 

As for the decklids, they are known to be problematic in terms of fit and strength. Apparently, they are rather flimsy. Again, ANY piece is going to take work to get fitted properly. Go get 5 good decklids off of different Challengers and each one will fit differently on your car!

OK....I'm going to get on the soapbox for the moment, and this isn't directed at anyone in particular. A lot of guys complain about the "poor fit" of replacement sheetmetal. This is just silly. I took close note of 5 or so VERY nicely done E-bodies at the Garlits show. We're talking $100K+ cars. Do you know that each car had variances in the overhang of the quarters relative to the tail panel? In fact, on any given car, there were differences from side to side. I KNOW that some of these examples were original! Also, anyone who has completely dissasembled an E-body or any other Mopar of the era KNOWS that these things were put together with a big hammer! Thus, there is no way in hell that any one body panel will fit all cars because all cars were different from the factory and have experienced different things over the past 30+ years! Now, to say that some of the stampings are thin, flimsy, have soft lines, or stuff like that is fair, but NO part is going to just "bolt on" without some work.

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Re: REPOS Challenger quarters/fender/hoods
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2006 - 11:20:53 AM »
Oh, do not get me wrong.  I expect a bit to fit.  I do not expect to slap it on.  Cars have variances, dings, dents etc over 30+ years.

I just did not want to spend 100+hours getting a good fit.

Thanks MUCH for your time and opinion on this matter. :thumbsup:

Tom