Sox and Martin tire/suspension guesses

[zerfetzen]

Hi all,
I was looking at this pic of Sox and Martin, and wonder if anyone knows about their setup?  It looks like the rear tires (Firestone, not BFG...just joking) come outside the wheel wells.  If so, did they have air shocks and traction bars back then to adjust the height as needed and then lock it in?  How did they have a rear suspension set up like this that wouldn't smack the tires?  Just curious.  Thanks.

[Oldschool]

While this is not an "E" bod, it is a Sox & Martin drag car.  There are a couple of pretty decent pics of the suspension, just click on em.  My car is very similar, only a little newer technology and materials.  I can post few pics of the rear suspension if you would like. 

http://www.atlantamusclecars.com/1968%20Hemi%20Cuda/1968%20Hemi%20Cuda.htm

Oldschool

[zerfetzen]

Thanks OldSchool.  I imagined they tubbed it, and this makes good sense, but it seems the quarters might still hit the tires on a launch, if the tires stick out of the wells, which it looks like they do on the pic I supplied, but I guess it's hard to say.  On the pics of the A-body, those meaty tires definitely fit inside the quarters.  Maybe the tires on the e-body are not outside of the quarters like they look?

[GreenFish]

But the car in the original pic definitly has leaf springs on it.. you can see them. My guess..  they used SS springs, and drag shocks, with a pinion snubber. At least on THAT car. They probably had some super secret tricks that they did as well like clamping the springs at certain points.

[zerfetzen]

How are drag shocks, really spongy up front and really stiff in the rear?

[Chryco Psycho]

I bet it used the Leaf link system with an added upper link to create a Quasi 4 link system
 drag shocks use a 90/10 ratio in front to allow very quick rise & slow drop & the rears are generally 50/50 with equal damping in both directions like a street shock

[tactransman]

I bet it used the Leaf link system with an added upper link to create a Quasi 4 link system
 drag shocks use a 90/10 ratio in front to allow very quick rise & slow drop & the rears are generally 50/50 with equal damping in both directions like a street shock

Leaf Link was very popular then.

[360 'CUDA]

Understand though that these cars are not chebbies.  On a coil spring car (lets say a chebbie shovel) the rear of the car drops while the front lifts up on the launch. On a properly set up Mopar the rear of the car lifts up slightly pushing down on the rear axle.
Old school setups like leaflinks or even just clamped heavy duty or  Super Stock springs can acheive this goal.

Of course nowadays there are better ways of getting there but I'm just talking about the S@M  car in the pic and other cars of the era.

On one of my race cars the slicks stuck out slightly past the quarters and it rubbed just a bit bouncing down the pit lanes but on the quarter run the tires never came close to the quarters.

I would race shovels much faster then me in bracket racing but they would have to sit there and watch me run away with my front wheels in the air while they wait for there light to come down.  My 60 foot times were fast  (for the time) while there's were slower especially on slick tracks.

[Chryco Psycho]

Im not so sure the old leaf link wouldn`t still outperform the Catrac system that is more popular today 

[zerfetzen]

I won't try to do that to my car, cool as it is, just because I don't want to drill into my frame rails.  Tactransman, what book did you pull that out of?  I'm trying to figure out the best mopar books to get.  360cuda, that's just hilarious, the shovels and the S&M car 

[tactransman]

Mopar Chassis Book . It is an old book don't know if it still in the newer versions or not.