Same chambers, same ports, just straight plugs, the "452" cast into them, and the core plugs on the ends. I will admit, Edelbrocks are not "perfect" OOTB..I wont install them that way. But as far as valve tip alignment, I've corrected that with shims, I've never had the saddles angled so the rockers didnt sit flat on the tips. What I do find is wrong or incomplete springs on a head, exh guides too tight on most of them, intake guides ocasionally tight, seats out of round by more than .005", incorrect shims under valves, and no spring cups on the aluminum, and missing valve seals. Not every head has a problem, but in checking sets, I've never had both be "right" at the same time. I have had the same issues plus debris left in the ports on Indys in the past too. As far as the "ridges" left in the ports..That's no big deal. Stock heads have much worse left from casting and machining, and these heads are by design to replace factory heads. They are better. In material, and in design. I do think the execution is average... But that's typical for Indy, Brodix, TFS, Dart, and most aftermarket assemblies. MP's is poor, which is why they have Edelbrock make thiers now...lol. I also agree, Edelbrock's chamber is to make is smaller than factory, not to be ultra modern. The Indys have a much better chamber, and the MPs share the Edelbrock chamber design. I've yet only seen the new MPs in pictures, but teh specs and visuals are identical to Edelbrock RPMs, minus the spark plug placement.