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Line Lock
« on: April 19, 2007 - 10:45:50 AM »
The B&M one I have installed doesnt wanna hold the front brakes that well.... maybe the 499 has to much torque for it ???




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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2007 - 10:54:08 AM »
brakes bled well? maybe pump the pedal for more pressure and then lock it? i would lean twords the rest of the brake system, line pressure before the lock unit being 'weak'  :2cents:
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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2007 - 12:46:41 PM »
thx goody.. i'll try pumping them as I never did that....just pushed the pedal down....Im sure the brakes are bled fine as it is a new SSBC front disc brake conversion kit that the garage just installed for me....  :burnout:

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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2007 - 12:50:19 PM »
Yep, one good pump should do it.

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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2007 - 01:38:31 PM »
I went out an pumped em pretty good and it still dont hold that well........ ???

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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2007 - 01:57:30 PM »
I went out an pumped em pretty good and it still dont hold that well........ ???

Try this, when you press and hold the button, see if they hold more at first, then fade of over ~30 seconds
It could be the solenoid is letting pressure back by. Also make sure you have a good 12V at the solenoid.
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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2007 - 02:04:52 PM »
Try this, when you press and hold the button, see if they hold more at first, then fade of over ~30 seconds
It could be the solenoid is letting pressure back by. Also make sure you have a good 12V at the solenoid.
J

Good point, do you have a relay? You should, if not you could be losing voltage through the load with the current running through the switch.
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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2007 - 04:38:15 PM »
no there is no relay....

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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007 - 11:53:32 PM »
just to be sure have you checked to be sure the front wheels are not sliding with them still locked up ?

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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2007 - 07:26:08 PM »
no but i'll check for that..

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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2007 - 07:36:01 PM »
I would stick a relay on there. You may be getting some voltage drop between the switch and the solenoid. Holding power will drop as the current to it goes down. A relay will keep more consistant voltage to the solenoid without running the current through a switch. Where high resistance can be built up from going on and off, pitting.
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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2007 - 07:48:18 PM »
wher can I get a relay and how do you wire it up ???

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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2007 - 10:35:54 PM »
you can get a 30 amp relay at any parts store , terminal 30 & the connection directly across from it are the high power terminals , hook one to battery with a fuse & the other to the line lock , 85 & 86 are low power hook 1 to you power switch & the other to ground 

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Re: Line Lock
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2007 - 02:33:09 AM »
as chryco said, any parts store. What you will get is a little black box with four terminals on the bottom. Each numbered, 30, 87, 85, and 86. (maybe 87a which is a resting point for the relay's switch, directly connected to the #30 terminal)

Basically Terminal #30 is your '12v in', should be fused and can be off of battery voltage (always hot). Terminal #87 is your '12v out' which is what you are powering (your line lock red wire, like lock should be grounded to the chassis)
Terminals 85 and 86, one of them needs to be grounded and the other needs power (not much). I usually use a 'ground switch' for relays, since its easier to find grounds than it is to wire up a special power wire for the switch you are going to use. So lets say for your line lock, you have a little red button or something which is common. Should have two wires i assume? Go ahead and tap into the #30 wire, and give terminal #85 a 'constant hot'. Then take a black wire from terminal #86 to one of the wires on your red button. The other wire on your red button to a ground. What you then have is a ground switch, with very little current going through your actual switch. Tap the button, it sends a ground signal to terminal #86, #85 has power. The little switch in the relay gets pulled over (pulled over? the 85/86 terminals inside the relay have a coil in there with a LOT of SMALL winded wire, power and ground to the coil creates a magnetic field pulling the switch in the relay over to power what you need. Pretty cool, is also what makes a relay effective, letting small current, control big[ger] current) to touch terminals #30 and #87 and you then have power to your line lock.

Make sense? lol its early. :bigsmile:
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