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Offline VTMopar

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2007 - 03:18:00 PM »
Anybody familiar with this place for more "original type" trim rings?  www.autoenhance.com/trimr.html

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2007 - 04:42:16 PM »
I like the way it looks now and wouldnt change a thing     :grinyes: :2cents: ::thumbsup:
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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2007 - 08:55:35 PM »
Thanks Rob.  Besides, I don't believe I could use an E-body rear-end with the relocated leaf springs.  I'd be interested in seeing some photos of your wheels with the trim ring gap on your 15X10" ralleys.
I think you can use a truck rearend , shorten it to the right length, get the right offset wheels and the stock trim ring will not have a gap.   

I asked about a company making custom depth trim rings and they said that it wouldn't be worth tooling up to make rings that they would only sell a few of.

Here are my 10" wheels with a 7" wheel ring.
Rob

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2007 - 11:58:55 PM »
OK guys, here's are the only pix I have at the moment of the mini-tub.  Thanks Rob for the photos.  They don't look that bad with the gap.  Someday, I'd like to get a Dana 60 for the car.  I suppose with an E-body length rear-end I could have the 12" wide Rallyes done with a standard front spacing on the wheel center for a standard 7" trim ring, but that would mean a really deep backspacing (probably more than 8").  Should I be concerned about such a difference between the front and back spacing in this scenario?  I appreciate the compliments on how it looks now, but I would rather the "Rallye wheel look" for my Challenger.  Anybody can put Weld Prostars on any car.  I really appreciate the feedback.  Are there any recommendations for really nice aftermarket wheels that would make an easier solution to this dilema?  Thanks to all.
1970 Challenger Convertible (JH27N0B); Resto-Mod; 605 HP, 412cid Small Block; Holley 750CFM Carburetor; A-833 23-spline 4-SPD; A-body 8.75 rear-end w/3.55 gears; 3" mini-tub; leaf spring relocation kit with split-leaf mono and Caltracs; American Racing AR500 Wheels, Rears = 15x10 (5.5" BS) with 315/60-15 BFG Comp T/A Drag Radials; Fronts = 15x7 (3.5" BS) with 215/70-15 BFG Radial T/A Radials.

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2007 - 06:14:14 AM »
What dilema? it looks like you already have a nice combo nicely tucked into your wheel wells.   As far as backspacing. the best scenario is to always have the backspacing half of the wheel width for bearing loading. As far as your mini-tub, It looks good from the outside but your frame is narrow in the back and the rear hanger was moved off of the rail. 2 weak spots in my opinion. But whatever works for you, works for me. Get a b-body dana for it and move the perches. Then get a custom offset rallye from the Wheel Guy.

BTW, adding wide steel rallyes adds LOTS OF UNSPRUNG WEIGHT back to your car! 

295-50s were wide enough for me.

Rob
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Rob

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2007 - 01:01:22 AM »
Hey surgeon, how did you get your car picture to be a slideshow?
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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2007 - 11:00:48 PM »
Bearcuda,

It wasn't easy, but then again, it wasn't too hard either; and this was my first attempt at this.  I used a program called Adobe Image Ready.  It came bundled with Adobe Photoshop 7.  Basically, the program allowed my to create a 'web-ready' .gif file.  Unlike a .jpg file which is just a "still" image, a .gif file is a series of still images "strung" in sequence to create an "animated" slide show.  I was able to tell the program how I wanted the animated file to play.  Either really fast through the images, or really slow, or somewhere in between.  I chose to display each of the four images for a duration of 2 seconds.  If I chose a maximum speed rate, the car would have looked like it was spinning.  If you want me to create one for you, please post the images you want to include in your animated "slide-show" and I will download them and create the .gif.  Then I could post the file back to the thread and you can download it and put it in your signature.  I know there's instructions in the "Newbie" catagory on how to get images into your signature.  Remember, each posting you make can contain attachments totaling a maximum of 300KB.
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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2007 - 11:09:22 PM »
OK guys, here's are the only pix I have at the moment of the mini-tub. 

Thanks for the pics!!! 

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2007 - 01:06:43 AM »
So here's what I thinking.  As much as I want to put a set of Rallyes on my car (15X7 fronts and custom 15X12 in the rear) I'm finding that I may need to opt for another choice.  I do not want to see a large gap between the back edge of the trim ring and the front of the wheel center on the 12" wide rears.  Apparently, this will be unavoidable with my current set-up because of the 7.5" backspace I want on the 12" rears with "A" body rearend, minitub and leaf spring relocation.  I believe that the stock backspacing on a 15"x7" rallye wheel is 4.25 inches.  This leaves a front spacing of about 3.75 inches (this takes into consideration the fact that a stated 7" wide wheel is really about 8" from very back edge to very front edge).  So, with a 12" wide wheel and a 7.5" backspace, the front space will be about 5.5".  With a standard trim ring for a 7" wheel, I'm lookin' at a gap of about 1.75".  That's too much.  So, I'm thinkin' of foregoing the idea of the rallyes and considering a set of Weld Draglites (no trim rings on these of course).  Currently on the car are Weld Prostars, but since I was looking for the Rallye wheel look, I think the Draglites are better than the Prostars (IMO).  At least I don't need to do any Special Orders for the 12" w/7.5" bs.  See pix of all.  Any thoughts or recommendations?
1970 Challenger Convertible (JH27N0B); Resto-Mod; 605 HP, 412cid Small Block; Holley 750CFM Carburetor; A-833 23-spline 4-SPD; A-body 8.75 rear-end w/3.55 gears; 3" mini-tub; leaf spring relocation kit with split-leaf mono and Caltracs; American Racing AR500 Wheels, Rears = 15x10 (5.5" BS) with 315/60-15 BFG Comp T/A Drag Radials; Fronts = 15x7 (3.5" BS) with 215/70-15 BFG Radial T/A Radials.

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2007 - 03:08:22 PM »
I like Welds either way but I see what you mean

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2007 - 09:30:36 PM »
I think the welds have a very cheap center hub with the washers continually tearing into the center where the lug bolts apply the pressure.  Before you buy these, please look at an older set on a race car or street car.  Look very closely at the point where the lugnut-washer contact the wheel aluminum.  They are all eaten up.  The loose center between the inner and outer wheel halves doesn't help either.
Rob

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Re: Rallye Wheels and Trim Rings?
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2007 - 07:26:56 PM »
I just received the Weld 15x12 wheels and have noticed that the Master Power Brakes disc brake conversion kit that was installed on the car uses a Cadillac Eldorado caliper that has a ratchet style E brake lever that sticks out too far to allow the wheel to fit.  The car currently has a 10" wheel that clears the lever by about 3/4".  I'd really like to make these 12" wheels work even at the cost of going with a different disc brake manufacturer.  Does anyone have a recommedation for a conversion kit that allows for the use of the E brake for the rear without interferring with the inside diameter of a 15" wheel?  Is there an alternative to having the E brake function as part of the rear caliper?  For those of you who have had to deal with this same (or similar) issue, what was your solution?  Thanks.
1970 Challenger Convertible (JH27N0B); Resto-Mod; 605 HP, 412cid Small Block; Holley 750CFM Carburetor; A-833 23-spline 4-SPD; A-body 8.75 rear-end w/3.55 gears; 3" mini-tub; leaf spring relocation kit with split-leaf mono and Caltracs; American Racing AR500 Wheels, Rears = 15x10 (5.5" BS) with 315/60-15 BFG Comp T/A Drag Radials; Fronts = 15x7 (3.5" BS) with 215/70-15 BFG Radial T/A Radials.