Author Topic: 440 valve length.  (Read 512 times)

Offline Robb

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440 valve length.
« on: June 05, 2007 - 07:20:53 AM »
quick question...

sanity check on valve geometry and adjustments:
the cam/lifters are hydraulic.

915 heads with new oversize valves are almost ready to come home from machine shop.  in talking about it with them, they said the valves they got for me were a little longer than usual and that they needed to use some special valve keepers and then add a few valve spring shims to get the spring pressure right.


MY CONCERN:
if the valves are physically longer, and the valvetrain (stock rocker arm and pushrod stuff) for a 4440 is non-adjustable...   are the longer valves going to cause a problem in either not closing all the way and/or hitting the piston (when normally they would not)

or do the hydraulic tappets compensate for this ?


thanks,

Robb


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Re: 440 valve length.
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007 - 07:24:20 AM »
it would depend on how much longer the valaves were & if the tips were trimmed off to the correct height , more then .040 will be a problem & the lifter will not compensate

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Offline Robb

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Re: 440 valve length.
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007 - 07:26:36 AM »
cool thanks, Ill be sure to ask if they were trimmed.    The guy knows mopar somewhat but its possible they may forget about the valve train not being adjustable.

Thanks !

70 Challenger SE  (440 SIX PACK / Keisler 5 speed, R/T SE replication)       68 Sport Satellite Convertible 383 Super Commando / 727  Survivor

2002 Trans AM WS6 convertible:  DD
1999 4Runner 4x4:  lifted-locked-armored  expedition vehicle
1990 Jeep XJ 4x4:  Front Dana 60, GM-14bolt rear, 3 link, 4link, 5.38 detroits, beadlocked 40's, stretched to 110" wb  Rock Crawler

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Re: 440 valve length.
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007 - 10:32:21 AM »
It will most definately cahnge the rocker geometry. Whether the hyd tappets can compensate is another question only you can answer when you check the pattern. I would most definately check the swipe of the rocker over the valve tip. You may need to shim the shafts, which may mean longer than stock pushrods...

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Re: 440 valve length.
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007 - 11:29:42 AM »
which sounds like the shop may have to put in some different valves then.   

update:

Made another call and I inquired about what all they did to the valves again, and after I mentioned that the valvetrain is non adjustable,  they finally said "oh yeah we trimmed the valves to correct length".   Ill definitly check it all out though

Apparently the valve were .040 to .060 over spec length. 


thanks again everyone.

Robb
« Last Edit: June 05, 2007 - 12:03:09 PM by Robb »

70 Challenger SE  (440 SIX PACK / Keisler 5 speed, R/T SE replication)       68 Sport Satellite Convertible 383 Super Commando / 727  Survivor

2002 Trans AM WS6 convertible:  DD
1999 4Runner 4x4:  lifted-locked-armored  expedition vehicle
1990 Jeep XJ 4x4:  Front Dana 60, GM-14bolt rear, 3 link, 4link, 5.38 detroits, beadlocked 40's, stretched to 110" wb  Rock Crawler