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Offline 73EStroker

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Re: Which stroker kit would you buy?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2007 - 11:59:05 AM »
BB71 - I agree with Moper's reply. There are many unforseen costs involved in building a good strong short block. Without that solid platform, for your motor, you will end up with an unreliable unit as some others have told us about. I spent approximately $6500Canadian on my short block 451 stroker. And yes I got a very strong unit here now. Bought the best parts but the crank is an original 68HP 440 crank and the cost for that was small. Things like a good oil pump, new pickup, windage tray, good timing gears, good lifters, oil pump drive, etc, etc - all need to be replaced if you want the most reliability. The machining and balancing costs are expensive if they are done by a reputable shop. Then you have the top end to look for - as someone has already mentioned. To feed a good 500" motor you are looking at a carburetor in the 870 to Dominator sizes. They are expensive. Headers from TTI are at least $500US uncoated. Then the tranny needs to be upgraded to handle the power - and the diff. Anyway you should have the picture by now regarding budget.
My advice - freshen up the 440 put it in and have fun. In the meantime build up the 400 block slowly as time and money permit. Trust me, even a stock 375HP 440 will bury you into the seat with the fun pedal pushed down. Whatever you do, the best of luck. Good to just see another Mopar back on the street.
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Re: Which stroker kit would you buy?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2007 - 02:33:28 PM »
Well, either 440 Source is lying or the people saying that they don't have high quality parts don't have any personal experience with their parts. It looks like their readers rides page speaks for itself. There are plenty of 10 sec and below cars on there. You don't run those kind of times without quality components. I wouldn't discount them so quickly.

I hear you. I am not discounting 440source, I am just getting realistic about all the incidental machine work that will go along with a complete rebuild kit. Also I have to spend money making sure that all the clearances are right. I dont think it will be as expensive as some think because I already have the headers I will use, heads are fresh and however bottlenecked will be used till I can upgrade. 727 is a pretty cheap rebuild because I know a guy who has done them for about 30 years  :swaying:  Right now though with my budget and my wife's screaming starting to rise in pitch I will probably do a cheapy rebuild on the 440 and do a b wedge stroker somewhere down the road.
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Re: Which stroker kit would you buy?
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2007 - 10:07:43 AM »
Well, either 440 Source is lying or the people saying that they don't have high quality parts don't have any personal experience with their parts. It looks like their readers rides page speaks for itself. There are plenty of 10 sec and below cars on there. You don't run those kind of times without quality components. I wouldn't discount them so quickly.

How many have you personally assembled? How well aquainted with automotive machining are you? I can should you pictures of lots of things. I didnt say the parts dont work or they lie. I said (in my opinion) they leave some things un-said. Care needs to be taken, or you may (just MAY...) have issues. I prefer not to sugar coat or leave things out. And had I actually had a kit that required no work to install, I would state that too. I havent had that yet. Maybe because I tend to look for things more than most :dunno:?

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Re: Which stroker kit would you buy?
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2007 - 05:54:50 AM »
Well, they do warn you on the bigger kits that may require block modification. They state that most is accomplished fairly easily with a die grinder. Is this not true?
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Re: Which stroker kit would you buy?
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2007 - 07:40:39 AM »
It's a relatively easy mod to grind away a little metal where the rods interfere with the block. 
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Re: Which stroker kit would you buy?
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2007 - 10:02:46 AM »
It's the stuff they dont tell you that is the issue. Anytime a non factory part is used, the builder should check eveything. Not believe the advertisments. Manufacturers will work very hard to get product sold. The kits are a very economical means to the bigger engine. Where a typical 496 10 years ago cost $10K-12K in that time's money, one now can be built for slightly more than 1/2 that. But they are not strictly "bolt in", even in the factory displacement versions. The minor issues I've found were true with 3.75 stroke combos, and 4.25" stroke combos. These are issues that may be passable in many instances. But I dont want "passable", and I certainly dont want a problem. I would think if someone didnt look for them, or perhaps doesnt know enough to notice minor things while assembling, that perhaps there are a few 10 second cars that have issues that will shorten the life of the engine. Maybe that is the difference between the older $10K and the newer $7K versions...lol.