Painless or Ron Francis?? Anyone used one or both

[Confederate Cuda]

I need to order my wiring harness for my car and wanted to know what you guys have used in the past. I like the painless but do not like the idea of having to have the terminals pre-wired in teh block. It just sounds easier to attach the accessory plugs and then run back to the block?? A couple of things to remember about my build. It is a create 392 Hemi which means that all of the engine harness is there with it's own fuse box. I need to control the fuel pump, gauges, radio, lights, turn signal, air pump, power windows. The inginition switch will be in the dash and not on the column. Any thoughts?

[Bullitt-]

our buddy RDF saved some coin going w/ http://ezwiring.com/ ..read about it
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=35288.0

[GoodysGotaCuda]

our buddy RDF saved some coin going w/ http://ezwiring.com/ ..read about it
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=35288.0

I helped put it in....I personally wouldn't buy that kit after working with it.

[BruteForce]

I'm making my own replacement harness because:

• No standard ones will work, because I have non-standard stuff like MSD-ignition, pressure switches, etc.
  
• I don't want a cut & spliced harness from trying to make a standard one work.
  
• I found (from here, thanks guys!) that I can order the special plugs needed from Rbevans7@aol.com (I just received them).
  
• I don't want the extra wires that come with general purpose harnesses.
  
• Getting wire, connectors, looms, and heat shrink tubing in bulk is cheap.
  
• Prewired harnesses are way expensive. I think the vendors take advantage of us like with that ridiculously overpriced $69 "ignition bypass" kit, clearly cobbled together from readily available parts for a few bucks.
  
• I plan to toss my (uncut) original harness in the original parts box in case I ever want to sell the car (or my heirs do!) and the customer really wants it all original. I've done a lot of upgrades on the car, but I keep the old stuff I pull off for that reason.
  
• I find it enjoyable and relaxing to string wire.
  
• I worked as an electronics tech to pay my way through college, so I know how to do professional quality work.
  
• Electrical stuff doesn't intimidate me in the least. While I'm a complete loser at metal & paint work (I cannot drill a hole straight to save my life), old car electrical systems are easy for me.
  
• I frankly think it will be as much or more work trying to make a standard harness work.
  
• I thought it would be more fun 
  

[Devil]

I used the Painless Wiring Mopar Harness, #10127.  It came out GREAT.  It was easy to work with, everything was labeled.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=35146.msg352917

There is my past post on the subject.

Ryan

[Confederate Cuda]

Thanks Devil,
What was the deal with your autometer connectors that you refer to in your other post??

[Devil]

I made my own gauge cluster, so I had to mix and match some wire colors and such.  Nothing to serious. 



Ryan

[Chryco Psycho]

I have installed both , no real preference , both are very similar & use GM wiring colors , the block my be a slight advantage for you but I had no issues with the painless with the attached block , my choice would be price not quality

[Devil]

I have installed both , no real preference , both are very similar & use GM wiring colors , the block my be a slight advantage for you but I had no issues with the painless with the attached block , my choice would be price not quality

The new Painless Mopar one is wired in the mopar style, with the same mopar colors.

Ryan

[72hemi]

I've done several harnesses from several companies and have had the best results with painless and that was before they came out with their new mopar harness. I have been in talks with them for a while because I am planning on installing a 6.1 hemi in my challenger and they feel confident that their new harness will work great.