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Offline old-school

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Jack stand placement question
« on: April 15, 2008 - 12:09:38 PM »
Guys,

I have a gentleman that is coming over in a couple of days to do a gear swap in the rearend of my Chally. He told me to have it jacked and wheels off when he gets here. I do have a floor jack and two jack stands. What is the ideal location for the two stands that will make the job the smoothest for him? A picture would be great but just a reply would be very much appreciated.

I posted last week saying i currently have 4:10 gears in my rear in a 742 casting so i bought brand new 3:55 ring and pinion gears delivered for $220 and a complete install kit from Summit for $131 delivered. He will be using the same carrier currently in the car so nothing else should be needed except bearing grease and gear oil right? He's going to pull it out and take the third member to his house, build it and then bring it back and install it this coming weekend i believe.

I found this guy through the Indy Mopar Club here in Indianapolis. He seems like a real nice guy and i will be joining the club as well. I offered him $250 to do the swap and he agreed. All the shops in town really wanted to screw me and charge $500 just for labor. I think that's crazy for a job that won't take very long at all for someone who knows what they are doing. So this way my total cost is $600. Does this sound about right? Please advise on the jack stand location. Thanks




Offline GoodysGotaCuda

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Re: Jack stand placement question
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008 - 12:12:29 PM »
I would put the two jack stands near where the front of the leaf springs are, that will let the rear end hang on the springs. You could put it under the rear, however the rear end will go up into the body more when the weight is on it. Leaving less work room for the 3rd member.

Just my 2cents! Either way the stands can 'kinda' be in the way however
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Re: Jack stand placement question
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008 - 12:26:28 PM »
When I swap gears I always place them on the rear frame rails near the leaf springs so that I can remove my wheels and have extra room to work under the car.
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Re: Jack stand placement question
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008 - 02:08:50 PM »
Guys,

I appreciate the replys. It's greatly appreciated. How does my $250 payment to this gentleman sound? Too little, too much?

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Re: Jack stand placement question
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008 - 03:15:41 PM »
Put a wheel chock wedged in against the front edge of a front tire where it meets the ground.  This will help prevent an unusual occurrence of the car slipping off the stands.  You can NEVER be too safe.
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Re: Jack stand placement question
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008 - 03:34:19 PM »
Good point. I have had a car slip off stands before, luckily no one was under the car or hurt, but still not a good experience.
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Re: Jack stand placement question
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2008 - 05:18:58 AM »
  Putting the stands under the front spring hanger support is the safest place, it gets the rear of the car the highest and leaves the whole rear of the car to work under. They are in the way for un-doing the uni joint but that is a small hinderance. If the car is on level ground it won't roll, however chocking the front wheels is a good safety idea.
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Re: Jack stand placement question
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2008 - 09:03:52 AM »
While your rear is apart, if you haven't already, grease your outer axle bearings, a maintenance item usually overlooked.....Shelblydog has a good how to on this thread  http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=35471.msg447296#msg447296

$250 sounds reasonable to this ole skinflint

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Re: Jack stand placement question
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2008 - 09:13:25 AM »
$600 total I would say is definitely a fair price.  Like you said, if you took it to a shop they will most likely charge you $500 minimum just because they will charge you a minimum day rate.

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Re: Jack stand placement question
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2008 - 09:56:38 AM »
Thanks guys,

He came over yesterday and we both went at it. He took the center section home with him because i do not have a vice. There's just no room at all in my two car garage. It'll be different next time around when i buy another house. I had the car on stands when he got there with the wheels and brake drums off ready to roll. A drain pan on standby, tools laid out and chompin at the bit. He's a nice guy and i found out that we were both laid off from the same company years ago.

When we dropped the center section and looked at it, the outside surface of the sure grip clutch was chewed on pretty good from what he said must have happened at the track (the car was raced for a while by previous owner). Although the 410 gears that are currently in it look pristine.  He figures a ring gear must have came apart at one time or another and did this scoring on the cluth surface. He assures me that the integrity of the clutch surface is not compromised in any way. If he sees anything inside when he swaps the gears, he will let me know.

The sure grip has been working flawlessy while i've been driving it. When you spin the clutch around, you can see tooth marks consistently all the way around with one that is pretty deep. It doesn't look like the scoring would make the clutch housing come apart but who knows at a later date. One thing for sure is that since i've had it (last fall) i've really hot rodded it quite a bit with no problems and i will be less likely now with the 3:55 he's swaping into it so we'll see down the road.