I have not used either yet ,we used rod ends everywhere building racecars, they replaced tierod ends , they were used to hold the diff in place either on 4 links or ladderbars , if they failed the car would be thrown immediatly sideways , but they pass at the track on 200 MPH cars , but while they are strong they do not take the miles a street car woudl , although I have used ladderbars on strret cars & have never had a rod end fail