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    nivvy

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    Slow Death For The Automakers
    « on: November 08, 2008 - 02:26:24 AM »
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    hannah

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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008 - 02:45:48 AM »
    All three companies have lost their way I think...making cars that no one wants
    The way they have managed the companies...the products they have been producing...it's been going for few years now...it's just really showing now because of the terrible economy...

    Start downsizing how many brands...manufacturer something new and that will sell. The greed got them where they are now...

    Just read also that Tim Horton's will be closing some stores...think a lot of major companies will be downsizing...people only have so much money to spend...anyway the last part is off topic sorry :)

     
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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008 - 04:30:40 AM »
    well they have been over building for years partly to keep the employees on & partly to keep costs down but they do build unwanted / ugly cars & trucks & Mopars stance that a 2dr will not sell is crap there are thousands of Sunfires & even more Jap cars in 2drs everywhere & I will not be buying a 4dr EVER
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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008 - 08:56:07 AM »
    I'm not sure what it's like elseware but here the dealers will not deal. They tell you what they want and that's it. I would think if they were hurting that bad they would push the cars off the lot. I'm not saying they need to give the cars away but at least they could deal. But the stance is pay the price or go home without. Guess what people are doing!
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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008 - 12:51:18 PM »
    Too tired last night to finish with this thought but also think this should put to rest any talk about GM taking over Chrysler now

    Guess if you compare now to say 2005 they are doing better just the conditions are worse..so there will be a giant low interest loan from the government and GM will be around for few years still...hopefully they will learn from their mistakes

    Now if only Chrysler would look in the mirror

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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #5 on: November 08, 2008 - 02:14:15 PM »
    The American auto industry is in good shape, except in Detroit. GM makes money everywhere but in America. Lavish UAW contracts, quality that doesn't measure up to other plants in the south and in other countries and the wrong mix of products. I think I read 68% voted Democrat this year? Bush should let Obama deal with it and let him give them the 50 Billion they're talking about. He can deal with the end result and take 100% of the blame when they fail again. I don't think the government should reward failure just because they depend on the UAW vote. They have also enabled the blockage of oil production with their votes so they have just reaped what they have sewn. They should live with it. I drove by a Ford plant of some kind a few months ago in my travels and I was interested in what the employees drove. The lot was filled with about 3/4 foreign cars. Why should we care about them?  :dunno: 
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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #6 on: November 08, 2008 - 07:34:39 PM »
    I think the government will have to give them all loans as this would mean thousands of lost jobs outside the assembly plants. They claim there are 7.5 jobs created for every job at the assembly plant from auto parts suppliers and other companies. I read today that if the US auto industry shrinks by 50% that reseach shows a estimate of 2.5 million jobs across the country would disappear in the 1st year. I'm in the automtive field suppling the OEM's plastic parts painted and unpainted and would really hate to see this happen. We have gotten take over business twice this year from competitors going bankrupt and have almost to much work for our business. I for one hope things turn around with the economy as work has already told us we will not be getting a raise next year and no christmas bonus this year do to the state of the economy.
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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008 - 07:53:27 PM »
    I don’t understand please forgive me for my ignorance …

    How can a company “ have almost to much work for our business” have less competition and not have any money to reword its employees?
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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008 - 08:44:24 PM »
    Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 08, 2008 - 07:53:27 PM
    I don’t understand please forgive me for my ignorance …

    How can a company “ have almost to much work for our business” have less competition and not have any money to reword its employees?



    Nothing to forgive dodgeboys...seems this is normal business

    Where I work...the busier we get...the more hours get cut...so we have less time to get the same amount of work done...less people to do the work...

    I haven't seen a Christmas bonus in over 5 years  :swaying:

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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #9 on: November 08, 2008 - 09:16:14 PM »
    Do like the UAW and go on strike  :lol:
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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #10 on: November 08, 2008 - 09:28:14 PM »
    Quote from: hannah on November 08, 2008 - 08:44:24 PM


    ..seems this is normal business

    Where I work...the busier we get...the more hours get cut...so we have less time to get the same amount of work done...less people to do the work...

    :dunno:

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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #11 on: November 08, 2008 - 09:41:42 PM »
    Like Enron and the banks that were in huge financial difficulties the last while....they are run by pompus idiots that have no clue what we want. How many cars out there do we really want? Why did we have to wait so long for the retro stang and Challenger?  They kept forcing shiiiiiiiiit aki mushrooms on us. Look at the Murano-something completely different and it sold . The Miata started life as an affordable 13,500 fun car. Once we bought them they ended up being 31,55. Good Grief. How long did Gm wait to build us a mini van-Ford wouldn't build it and Iaccoca had to go to Mopar to give us one. The K car saved Mopar-an affordable car. Build us a Homer mobile  :bigsmile:
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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #12 on: November 08, 2008 - 10:17:46 PM »
    Quote from: thedodgeboys on November 08, 2008 - 07:53:27 PM
    I don’t understand please forgive me for my ignorance …

    How can a company “ have almost to much work for our business” have less competition and not have any money to reword its employees?

    I think it will take a couple years for us to get back up to where we were as far a profit as once car sales fell off so did our profit with less cars being built. We are like other companies having to give the big 3 money back and cheaper parts once they started having money problems which ment less profit for us and when oil went up so did the plastic we use to make the parts for the vehicles. We still have to invest money in new equipment and robots for painting the parts which just cost us over 10 million dollars. To stay competitive we have to invest in the new equipment or be left behind by the competion we have. We are non union so the company I work for can pretty well do what they want as far as raises or bonuses but I do have a 401K match and medical insurance. I'm just glad to have a job right now.
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    Re: Slow Death For The Automakers
    « Reply #13 on: November 09, 2008 - 07:25:36 AM »
    Quote from: hannah on November 08, 2008 - 02:45:48 AM
    All three companies have lost their way I think...making cars that no one wants
    The way they have managed the companies...the products they have been producing...it's been going for few years now...it's just really showing now because of the terrible economy...

    Start downsizing how many brands...manufacturer something new and that will sell. The greed got them where they are now...

    Just read also that Tim Horton's will be closing some stores...think a lot of major companies will be downsizing...people only have so much money to spend...anyway the last part is off topic sorry :)

     



    i think its time to fold the tent up and start over. i realize there is a domino effect doing this, but as a taxpayer, i am tired of the unions demands and the company gov. bail out packages. let them die and start all over. maybe that will wake them up!
    by the way, my most dependable vehicles of late,
    my chally
    bmw m series
    honda element
    chev minivan
    chrysler minivan (biggest piece of ****) replaced with the Honda!

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