Author Topic: 8 3/4 Source for your E Body (they are a bolt in)  (Read 1279 times)

Offline PlumCrazyChris

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8 3/4 Source for your E Body (they are a bolt in)
« on: September 23, 2008 - 10:36:49 PM »
Some of you may know this already, but I've never seen it written down anywhere.  I sure hope it helps someone, it would have saved me a lot of time.

I've had 3 Challengers with 7 1/4 rearends and although there is nothing wrong with them, they are light and pretty tough and do just fine behind anything that came from the factory with a two barrel carb.  The one in my current car even has 3.55 gears and has held up fine behind a hot 318.  But if you start adding more power, you really want to step up to an 8 3/4, or a Dana 60 before it explodes at a stoplight while the rustang in the next lane pulls away laughing.

With the first two Challengers, I had no problem finding an 8 3/4 from an E body, they were as close as the nearest junkyard.  Of course my last Challenger project was 10 years ago and finding an Ebody, let alone one with an 8 3/4 in a yard these days is pretty much impossible.   So for this new project, I needed to find an economical alternative for my old 7 1/4.  I could have one cut down like the A body guys, but thats pretty pricey.

So I started searching online for options and came across a reference table showing Mopar rearend dimensions.  I'd seen these before, and there was nothing close to an E body, but there were models on this list that I hadn't seen before.   Then there it was, a lowly C body, and even lowlyer (is that a word?) A100 Van listed with nearly the identical dimensions of the E body.   

I didn't think it could be possible, but I thought I'd check it out.  Being in a very rich old junkyard area of Central Texas, I went out to my favorite yard and started measuring.   After a couple of C bodies I was about to give up, but then I measured a new addition to the yard, a 66 Newport, and measured it again.....and sure enough it was spot on to the dimensions given in the table shown below.  I couldn't believe it.

                                                    Differences in 8 3/4 Rearend Sizes (inches)
         
                                   '65-'69 C-body and A100 Vans         E-body        Difference
Housing Widths Flange to Flange                56.75                   56.48             0.27
Axle shaft length                                     30.00                   29.97             0.03
Rear end Widths Drum to Drum                   61.75                   61.63             0.13
Perch Widths Center to Center                   46.00                   46.00             0.0



"How much for the rearend" I asked.   "Which one?"  "That C-body over there" I answered, nervously awaiting his response...   "Don't get much call for those...A hundred bucks?"    I said "sounds good"  but inside I was like "Score!"   He put the car on a rack and I pulled the complete rear and U-bolts and it even had brand new 11x2.5" drum brakes and new right-hand lugs on it.......Sweet!

So, there ya are, go get yours before they are all crushed.   Make sure you check the year and measure first as some 65-69's didn't have those same dimensions.  A quick spring to spring centerline measure should do it, 46" and you found a winner. 



« Last Edit: September 24, 2008 - 12:29:34 AM by PlumCrazyChris »
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70 Challenger 5.7, A518, A/C
70 Challenger 340 convertible (Gone to Sweden)
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Re: 8 3/4 Source for your E Body (they are a bolt in)
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008 - 10:49:30 PM »
I have 3 e body 8 3/4 laying around. Running biger tires you actually would rather a b body and move the springs in with a kit. You will still have e brake issues to hook up with any differnt type other than an e body.

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/axle/17.html

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Re: 8 3/4 Source for your E Body (they are a bolt in)
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008 - 12:13:34 AM »
You're lucky to have kept so many spare E body rearends, they're not dropping off trees around here. 

The table that you reference is old.   It doesn't show the correct models.  The one you need to reference is this one.

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/axle/16.html

I haven't seen any issues with emergency brake cable, but please let me know why you think there would be...  My new C-body rear is 1/8" wider on each side, don't think you'll ever see the difference from a stock E-body rear.

The B body rears need the old perches cut off and new ones welded on.    A B-body rear won't get you more room for bigger tires..... you'll still have to relocate the springs to get more room, but there is a weld in kit for that. 



« Last Edit: May 01, 2012 - 09:11:16 PM by PlumCrazyChris »
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70 Challenger 340 convertible (Gone to Sweden)
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Re: 8 3/4 Source for your E Body (they are a bolt in)
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008 - 11:05:18 AM »
I found out another tidbit about this rearend swap.  The perches on the C body rear are oriented 4-5* off from the stock Ebody perches.  That means the pinion is pointed downward on the C body 4-5*.   The rear is a bolt-up, but will need to be shimmed to move the pinion UPward 4-5*.   No biggie. 

Still a very good option for those looking for an 8 3/4 for their Ebodies.

Good luck. 

PlumCrazyChris
Mopar Muscle Cars of Austin
Round Rock Tx
70 Challenger 5.7, A518, A/C
70 Challenger 340 convertible (Gone to Sweden)
68 Barracuda (sold it too)
www.mopar.org