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    Offline tvacuda340

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    combustion chambers size x- heads +cam for procharger
    « on: September 02, 2006 - 03:18:18 PM »
    hi
    i need to know the combustion chambers size of a x-head
    thanks
    « Last Edit: September 03, 2006 - 11:50:42 AM by tvacuda340 »
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    Re: combustion chambers size x- heads
    « Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006 - 02:08:09 AM »
    68 cc
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    att :chryco psycho Re: combustion chambers size x- heads
    « Reply #2 on: September 03, 2006 - 02:51:57 AM »
    thanks chryco psycho,  maby you know a cam for my setup
     

    I m building a 340     with procharger + water inj
    comp: 9,5:1 flat top forged pistens( 0,60 ) with total seal rings cr classic 
    boost: 7 psi    max 10 psi
    intakt : I got mopar m1 or the  performer rpm to use (portet gasket mach ) ?
    x-head with steel  high flow valves
    hughes roller rocker  1,6
    portet chambers ,bowls and openings 
    spring :0,575lift
    steel crank   all balanched
    2800 stall
    gear 4,10 
    727 aut

    hughes engiens  come op with this : hydraulic roller HER2228AL-114º LSA.
                                                     hydraulic flat tappet - HEH 2832AL-114º LSA
                                                     Solidflat tappet - HTL3237AS-114º LSA.

    thanks
    best regards
    tvacuda
    from denmark 
    « Last Edit: September 03, 2006 - 02:55:00 AM by tvacuda340 »
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    Re: combustion chambers size x- heads +cam for procharger
    « Reply #3 on: September 03, 2006 - 02:19:52 PM »
    I agree with the choices , a 114 CL is nessisary you have to decide which type of cam to use , lift is free so get as much as possible
     I do not like Hughes for cams though , either way it needs to be custom grind , I have UltraDyne & Engle grinds that will work well that we can get specifically taylored to your engine 
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    Re: combustion chambers size x- heads +cam for procharger
    « Reply #4 on: September 04, 2006 - 02:14:20 PM »
     hi
    hydr will that do it?  /some says that hydr will perform as good as a  roller ?
    power range in  2500-6500 rpm
    can you come with some  idea
    will  performer rpm be better then M1   or  ( intake ) :clueless:

    (I got now a custom  cam 294  with  520 lift 1,5 ration but not designt for blower ! )

    thanks 
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    Re: combustion chambers size x- heads +cam for procharger
    « Reply #5 on: September 04, 2006 - 02:45:31 PM »
    From Engle I would look at K58 /K60 -114* CL cam or a K60/K62 114*cl
    I feel your compression may be too high to run 10 Psi boost witout octane boost but it may work out , I know you have better fuels in Europe
    at 6500 RPM you are at or just past the reliable limit of hyd cams / lifters & may have stability problems , but going to a solid cam will require pushrods & mechanical rockers which will cost more
    UltraDyne has a 243 * duration cam with .548 lift with 1.5 rockers + approx .38 extra lift with 1.6 rockers , you will also need it ground with a 114* Cl , they can be ordered through Lunati
     
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    Re: combustion chambers size x- heads +cam for procharger
    « Reply #6 on: September 11, 2006 - 03:04:27 PM »
    From Engle I would look at K58 /K60 -114* CL cam or a K60/K62 114*cl
    I feel your compression may be too high to run 10 Psi boost witout octane boost but it may work out , I know you have better fuels in Europe
    at 6500 RPM you are at or just past the reliable limit of hyd cams / lifters & may have stability problems , but going to a solid cam will require pushrods & mechanical rockers which will cost more
    UltraDyne has a 243 * duration cam with .548 lift with 1.5 rockers + approx .38 extra lift with 1.6 rockers , you will also need it ground with a 114* Cl , they can be ordered through Lunati
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    hi chryco psycho
    thanks for you answer !

    have already now mechanical rockers 
    so a solid  cam is no problems

    the custom  cam from engle
    k58/k60 ,114ci =in520 lift / exh534 lift
    k60/h62 114 ci= in539lift/exh557 lift 
    right or ?                (neede more exh lift with boosted  right?)
    what about intake   m1 or Edelbrock performer rpm, ?
    you se my combo about

    what is your idea ( use the car only for fun mainly in weekends )  :bananasmi
    prices for custom cam ?

    thanks

    hope you can understand my english
    best regards
    torben
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    « Reply #7 on: September 11, 2006 - 09:34:48 PM »
    with a blown application I do not feel the dual plane will help so I would use the M1
     the dual plane is designed to reduce the amount of air that needs to be moved to suck air inthe the cylinder , under pressure this makes No difference ed
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    Re: combustion chambers size x- heads +cam for procharger
    « Reply #8 on: December 25, 2008 - 11:28:32 PM »
    Quote from: tvacuda340 on September 03, 2006 - 02:51:57 AM
    thanks chryco psycho,  maby you know a cam for my setup
     

    I m building a 340     with procharger + water inj
    comp: 9,5:1 flat top forged pistens( 0,60 ) with total seal rings cr classic 
    boost: 7 psi    max 10 psi
    intakt : I got mopar m1 or the  performer rpm to use (portet gasket mach ) ?
    x-head with steel  high flow valves
    hughes roller rocker  1,6
    portet chambers ,bowls and openings 
    spring :0,575lift
    steel crank   all balanched
    2800 stall
    gear 4,10 
    727 aut

    hughes engiens  come op with this : hydraulic roller HER2228AL-114º LSA.
                                                     hydraulic flat tappet - HEH 2832AL-114º LSA
                                                     Solidflat tappet - HTL3237AS-114º LSA.

    thanks
    best regards
    tvacuda
    from denmark 



    TVA, I just saw your profile. I have built an engine similar to yours and was wondering what cam you ended up with.

    I have a 408 based 360 with a D1-SC Pro-Charger. Tremec 5 speed and 3.73 gears. I use the Hughes cam you mentioned (2228AL w/ 114 degree LSA).

    It works very good.
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    Re: combustion chambers size x- heads +cam for procharger
    « Reply #9 on: December 27, 2008 - 07:01:03 AM »
    hi  go-fish
    that is nice to hear !  .. procharging the engiens is nice got a lot of power when you need it

    I got the crane power max   Grind Number: HR-222/339-2S-12 IG
     http://www.cranecams.com/index.php?show=browseParts&action=partSpec&partNumber=699621&lvl=2&prt=5
     
    nearly the sames as hughes .. got more lift on Exhaust Valve

    and then  got new heads on , Eddy from hughes  stage III  : http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/products.php?browse=category&level0=U21hbGwgQmxvY2snTEEnIDI3MywzMTgsMzQwIGFuZCAzNjAgZW5naW5lcw==&level1=Q3lsaW5kZXIgSGVhZHM=&partid=22211

    that is working very very good!! ( I am right now putting caltrack  on ...to  get better tracksion )

    and at last just got a new  F1A procharger 
    sooooo can´t wait for the spring..







    Quote from: go-fish on December 25, 2008 - 11:28:32 PM

    TVA, I just saw your profile. I have built an engine similar to yours and was wondering what cam you ended up with.

    I have a 408 based 360 with a D1-SC Pro-Charger. Tremec 5 speed and 3.73 gears. I use the Hughes cam you mentioned (2228AL w/ 114 degree LSA).

    It works very good.
    « Last Edit: December 27, 2008 - 10:54:21 AM by tvacuda340 »
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    Re: combustion chambers size x- heads +cam for procharger
    « Reply #10 on: December 27, 2008 - 10:47:36 AM »
    definately a wide centerline for a blown application..... also quench is not as important as well .....  :working:
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