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General election UK
« on: April 14, 2010 - 07:11:02 PM »
We have a general election going on here at the moment (that's like when you elect a new president in the USA).

Just wondering if any of you American guys know or actually care about who we have (or might have) as our next prime minister (ie. president) over here.

If you don't care about it then you can join my club - I don't care either.  They are all a bunch of tossers.
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Re: General election UK
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2010 - 08:26:25 PM »
I dont know anything about how they run yer area, but a primed minister to me means a drunk preacher or something :clueless:


I thought a queen bossed you guys around.   Shows how much I know.        Anyways,  hope whoever wins , is for the working person and well being of everyone

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Re: General election UK
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2010 - 09:54:07 PM »
UKcuda, my money (and hopes) are on Cameron, for several reasons.

First, I applaud the Brits reserving the autonomy they have in resisting assimilation into the EU. I have no love for the EU and their political correctness, and Cameron gets my nod because he will never kow-tow to the European leaders. I'm sure they hate him.

The second reason is I think he will be tougher on immigration than Brown or Clegg. And I think (would like to hear your perspective on this) the Islam problem in England is by far the countys biggest problem. Hopefully he would have the guts to deal firmly with the issue, unlike his predecessors.

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Re: General election UK
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010 - 05:50:49 AM »
UKcuda, my money (and hopes) are on Cameron, for several reasons.

First, I applaud the Brits reserving the autonomy they have in resisting assimilation into the EU. I have no love for the EU and their political correctness, and Cameron gets my nod because he will never kow-tow to the European leaders. I'm sure they hate him.

The second reason is I think he will be tougher on immigration than Brown or Clegg. And I think (would like to hear your perspective on this) the Islam problem in England is by far the countys biggest problem. Hopefully he would have the guts to deal firmly with the issue, unlike his predecessors.
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Re: General election UK
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010 - 08:23:37 AM »
UKcuda, my money (and hopes) are on Cameron, for several reasons.

First, I applaud the Brits reserving the autonomy they have in resisting assimilation into the EU. I have no love for the EU and their political correctness, and Cameron gets my nod because he will never kow-tow to the European leaders. I'm sure they hate him.

The second reason is I think he will be tougher on immigration than Brown or Clegg. And I think (would like to hear your perspective on this) the Islam problem in England is by far the countys biggest problem. Hopefully he would have the guts to deal firmly with the issue, unlike his predecessors.
I would like to hear your slant on the fact that there are now Islamic courts set up which are legal but don't necessarily follow English law. The English law has been the basis for American & Australian law and all freedom loving people.   :2thumbs:
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Re: General election UK
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2010 - 06:46:37 PM »
On the Islamic Courts thing:

As it happens I am a lawyer myself.  I think in the US they would call me a trial lawyer.

Islamic Courts are not an integrated part of our legal system.  For their decisions to be enforceable the participants have to have agreed to use the islamic court - that court's decision then becomes a contractual matter which is enforceable as an arbitration agreement, and like any other arbitration contract.

So for example, I could set up "Steve's Loony Tunes Court" and as long as I was careful to engage the Arbitration Act 1996, and the parties agreed to be bound by my court's decision, they could then go to a regular court to enforce what my court had decided.

On the Election/Cameron thing:

I don't think Cameron has such a strong position on Europe and immigration as you think, it is stronger than the other main two but still all a bit wishy-washy.  There is another party called the UK Independance Party whose manifesto is totaly to get out of europe and stop immigration.  They are slowly gaining support and they actually beat Labour (Brown's party) in the last European elections here.

On the Muslim thing generally:

I'm not aware of any real "Muslim problem" in the UK, but then I do live in a part of the country where there are few immigrants of any kind.  Mostly round here we have Polish immigrants who work on the farms, and apart from driving tractors too fast on narrow roads they seem to be OK.

I know there have been some problems with a minority of religious fanatical Muslims cooking up terrorist business, but I don't see the mainstream Muslim population buying into that.

I think that main problem we have is that we are a tiny little over-crowded island getting more crowded all the time, and that doesn't work very well with a rather socialist welfare system and too many over-manned state organisations soaking up all our tax payments.

Shall I vote?

I think not - I really don't want to encourage them.
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Re: General election UK
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010 - 05:25:33 AM »

I think that main problem we have is that we are a tiny little over-crowded island getting more crowded all the time, and that doesn't work very well with a rather socialist welfare system and too many over-manned state organisations soaking up all our tax payments.

Shall I vote?

I think not - I really don't want to encourage them.
Here in Australia we have no choice, we have to all vote or get fined, I believe there is one other country that voting is compulsory and that is Russia. We also have record taxes and nothing to show for it, even though we will have state & federal elections later this year, maybe they might spend some on the people or the country.   :villagers:
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Re: General election UK
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2010 - 05:41:37 PM »
Compulsory voting !!  is your vote still secret though ?  I mean, what happens if you go to vote but only pretend to ?

How much tax do you pay ?  Most of my income is taxed at 40%, but it doesn't end there, I have to pay tax on what I have earned even if I haven't been paid.  Last year my tax bill was 64% of what I actually got paid.
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Re: General election UK
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2010 - 04:55:59 AM »
Yes our vote is still secret however we have to mark the ballot paper with a lead pencil, if we use a biro/ink it becomes informal. I have been a ballot counting observer several times in our local area, then the papers go to central area and anything could happen to those ballot papers.   :clueless:
The government say they hang onto all ballots after the election, I personally, like quite a few others are not happy about using a lead pencil which can be altered.   :villagers:
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Re: General election UK
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2010 - 01:08:38 PM »
That does sound like a scam.
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Re: General election UK
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010 - 12:17:07 AM »
UK I think  sharia law will have a quicker foot hold in our good old U S before the Brits will see its ugly results . That said I follow whats going on in europe , keep us posted some of us here do care   .GB
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