Best way to find a Cuda?

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Offline Aloid

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Best way to find a Cuda?
« on: May 03, 2010 - 01:16:03 AM »
Sorry if this is in the wrong part of the forum...

I’m giving in to that itch I’ve never scratched and looking for a Cuda.  I spent the last few weeks researching Barracuda/Cuda history to understand engines and options, etc., and I’m getting a handle on my budget.

I’m not a restorer, though I can wrench on an engine, rework breaks, deal with some interior work… generally weekend stuff, not so much body work.   I want to tinker.

I’m really just looking for something that runs and sounds like a cuda…  on a limited budget… so it seems a 440 hemi is not in the cards.  ;)

I could use some guidance on finding a car without getting scammed.  If there is nothing available locally (I’m in So.California where prices seem higher in general), then turning to the internet seems a viable route, but I’ve already run into at least two scams associated with Auto Trader Classic.   

It appears as though eBay Motors has a buyer protection plan which is safer.  But there is a lot of competition driving prices up.

I’ve found a few established shops which find and sell cars.  These seem to be a fairly solid way to go though I'd need to fly out to see the car...

Any other ideas I’ve not considered?

Thank you,

Aloid
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Re: Best way to find a Cuda?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2010 - 07:40:14 AM »
 Asking around forums like these and keeping an eye on the For Sale sections can work out well also.  I have had quite a few muscle cars now, and the ones offered up by private sellers through enthusiast sites like these have proven to be better quality builds than some of those slapped together by some "classic car dealers".  Even if they were put together by shade tree mechanics, usually the better parts were used, and the attention to detail is better on a car that is somebodys baby.  Post the type of car and price range you are looking for in the Wanted section.  There may be guys on here thinking about selling, but have not posted an ad because they don't want to deal with tire kickers.

Craigslist can have some relative bargains, but you should know what you are looking for.  Read everything you can about the year and options on car you want.  Use the search feature here to find out what to look for and common problem areas.  Don't be afraid to ship the right car to you, but don't forget to add that cost to your budget.  The best bet is to go see the car, and have it shipped back to you after taking care of the paperwork in person.  You can often get guys on these sites to check out a car that is local to them, but not to you.  Many of us need very little reason to go look over a cool old Mopar.  Ask Questions.  Good Luck! :2cents:
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Offline djwhog

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Re: Best way to find a Cuda?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2010 - 07:55:48 AM »
Also attend Mopar car shows I have seen decent buys at shows and many times talking to folks at shows too helps.

Look at autabuy and other online searches, most times ebay is way too much.

good luck!  Also get what you want and can afford, be pickey to a point, dont settle you wont be happy. Get the model, base options etc you need.

PS took me 3 years to find what I wanted.

Offline ericindc

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Re: Best way to find a Cuda?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010 - 10:28:54 AM »
I can give you my opinion on Ebay.  Depending on where you are, it may be the only option.  I bought 2 cars on ebay, my 83 cj7 and my 74 challenger.  My Cj7 was great, and because it was sold by a dealership on ebay, the problem I had with the jeep (no catalytic converters), was solved by the dealership just sending me a check for the work.

The second one was my 74 challenger. It was a private seller.  I got it for a good price, all the pics looked good, the guy had all the right answers and I asked over and over... is its ok to drive? He said yes.  Well, flat out, he was wrong.  First, it was blowing oil like a mofo, and 2nd, the car dove HARD to the right when braking. Very dangerous for the drive from Misssouri to DC.  I tried to work it out with the guy, but he was not willing to give me any money for the work, not to mention saying it was ok to drive a car 1000 miles with bad brakes.  Because of all the issues, I initiated the ebay buyer protection.  It worked like this:

1. Demonstrate that you tried to work it out with seller.
2. Need 2 Quotes from ASE certified shops stating how much the repairs will be.
3. Be Careful, on old cars it really only covers certain things like engine work, and axle work (ie. no rust repair, transmission repair, brake repair, etc etc etc) READ GUIDELINES CAREFULLY.
4. Once you get the quotes. It was pretty quick to get the check from Ebay's insurance company.  Although they did screw me (like a good insurance company) because the wouldnt pay to "drop the transmission" to repair the rear main seal. Note that had the quote said "remove the engine" to fix the rear main seal, they would have paid for it.


 
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1983 Jeep CJ7, Chevy 350, auto, 32" tires, 2.5" lift

Offline Aloid

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Re: Best way to find a Cuda?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010 - 04:03:42 PM »
Thanks for the tips guys...  I hope I don't have to wait 3 years  :22yikes:

It looks like I just missed Black73cuda's car... that would have been a good starting point for me... almost done!  :) 

Question... I see people advertising replica Cudas.  It seems they are Barracudas turned into Cudas, or is there a real replica market out there with fiberglass bodies, etc.?

Looking forward to having pics to share some day.

Alan

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Offline MEK-Dangerfield

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Re: Best way to find a Cuda?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010 - 04:36:32 PM »
Thanks for the tips guys...  I hope I don't have to wait 3 years  :22yikes:

It looks like I just missed Black73cuda's car... that would have been a good starting point for me... almost done!  :) 

Question... I see people advertising replica Cudas.  It seems they are Barracudas turned into Cudas, or is there a real replica market out there with fiberglass bodies, etc.?

Looking forward to having pics to share some day.

Alan


Alan,

   Just keep asking away here, and you will learn a boat load.   :thumbsup:

The Cuda's were higher performance Barracudas, so that's why you see the "replica" thing. Someone might of had a Barracuda with a slant-six or 318 in it originally, then they drop in a big block and upgrade the suspension and call it a Cuda. The VIN will bear out if it is a Cuda or Barracuda.

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Offline willhaven

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Re: Best way to find a Cuda?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010 - 09:46:42 PM »
I say:
1) This forum
2) www.cudaworld.com
3) eBay

Definitely fly out and see whatever car you're going to buy before you buy it.

Be glad you're in SoCal, if they're CA cars, they're likely to be more solid than cars from the east coast. More expensive, but the concentration of cars in CA and people who have money to take care of them is good.

If you want something soon and you're OK with a driver quality car, just buy something that's already complete. Avoid a restoration unless you're really particular about what you HAVE to own and you're willing to wait.

Offline Aloid

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Re: Best way to find a Cuda?
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010 - 12:23:44 AM »
I say:
1) This forum
2) www.cudaworld.com
3) eBay

Definitely fly out and see whatever car you're going to buy before you buy it.

Be glad you're in SoCal, if they're CA cars, they're likely to be more solid than cars from the east coast. More expensive, but the concentration of cars in CA and people who have money to take care of them is good.

If you want something soon and you're OK with a driver quality car, just buy something that's already complete. Avoid a restoration unless you're really particular about what you HAVE to own and you're willing to wait.

Thanks for the link to cudaworld!  Seems like a great way to see the variety of what's out there.  I'd run across Texas Toy Box before and they seem to have "entry level" Cuda's for a budget like mine. 

A friend says I should go to the Barret Jackson auction out here in June.  My impression is I'll see finished, high priced cars... but it would still be really cool.

You guys mention CA cars being more solid... How do you best determine how much metal is in a car's body?  bring a magnet?  I'm assuming that's what you mean... too much hidden bondo, etc.   :stirpot:

Alan
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Offline djwhog

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Re: Best way to find a Cuda?
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010 - 12:54:03 AM »
Sometimes at racingjunk.com you see cars not to beat p and a lot invested in them to go fast...

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Re: Best way to find a Cuda?
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010 - 09:05:25 PM »
You guys mention CA cars being more solid... How do you best determine how much metal is in a car's body?  bring a magnet?  I'm assuming that's what you mean... too much hidden bondo, etc.   :stirpot:
CA cars are good... AZ cars are probably best. CA still has a lot of coastline and there are rust buckets in CA. But it's a far cry from, say, a car that's been in MI its whole life.

Make sure you get pictures of the undercarriage if they say it's solid. If they say they've restored it and done metal work, ask for pictures. If you're skeptical, bring various magnets of different strengths. If you have a weak magnet that barely sticks to a fridge and it won't stick to a body panel... lots of filler.

But I'm not expert.